Moscow!
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Moscow!
Two things: When I destroyed the 50th unit I got jibberish as a description. Something about event etc. But no big deal. Other thing was more troubling...grabbed my second suburb but no victory...grabbed them all, still no victory. Then with start of turn 20, relief when I see Major Victory. Granted playing at Lt. level is not too difficult but does the game not envision anyone winning before that turn. Or do you have to hold on to Moscow for several turns or so?
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Re: Moscow!
You have to capture Moscow (golden flag) and two silver flags to complete the objective :Dmurphy238 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:47 pm Two things: When I destroyed the 50th unit I got jibberish as a description. Something about event etc. But no big deal. Other thing was more troubling...grabbed my second suburb but no victory...grabbed them all, still no victory. Then with start of turn 20, relief when I see Major Victory. Granted playing at Lt. level is not too difficult but does the game not envision anyone winning before that turn. Or do you have to hold on to Moscow for several turns or so?
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Re: Moscow!
Seeing how you have made it to Moscow you should be able to answer my question regards Vyzma 44. When do you finally get access to your core Air Force unit? I get the message along the lines that the weather has cleared, I get the 20 air command points but no access to my core air units. What I do get is a horde of Russia aircraft all over the map. Is it a matter of time or am I supposed to purchase a brand new set of units?
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Re: Moscow!
Have you try this :luckyphil259 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:49 am Seeing how you have made it to Moscow you should be able to answer my question regards Vyzma 44. When do you finally get access to your core Air Force unit? I get the message along the lines that the weather has cleared, I get the 20 air command points but no access to my core air units. What I do get is a horde of Russia aircraft all over the map. Is it a matter of time or am I supposed to purchase a brand new set of units?
Re: Moscow!
Thx for the feedback - the missing text is purely an info that you achieved the objective regarding destroyed units, so there is no impact on gameplay. We will correct this.Dmurphy238 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:47 pm Then with start of turn 20, relief when I see Major Victory. Granted playing at Lt. level is not too difficult but does the game not envision anyone winning before that turn. Or do you have to hold on to Moscow for several turns or so?
As for victory - turn 20 is the earliest possible victory here. The scenario can go up to 30, but ends at 20 if everything is achieved.
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Pls check terminator's pic above - most often this is a case of unit filter settings.luckyphil259 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:49 am Seeing how you have made it to Moscow you should be able to answer my question regards Vyzma 44. When do you finally get access to your core Air Force unit? I get the message along the lines that the weather has cleared, I get the 20 air command points but no access to my core air units. What I do get is a horde of Russia aircraft all over the map. Is it a matter of time or am I supposed to purchase a brand new set of units?
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- Sergeant - Panzer IIC
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Re: Moscow!
Thanks for the response! Got a Tiger II at start of the next scenario and just waiting for the Luftwaffe to let me deploy an Me 262! Loving it!
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Re: Moscow!
Excellent thank you. I can't recall having that issue before, obviously having too much fun and not paying enough attention. Now it is time to go and flame some Russian aircraft.
Re: Moscow!
well, i have the same problem as op, but i cant achive a major victory in the scenario, i captured both moscow and all 3 suburbs before turn 27 and turn 28. but mission just keeps going to turn 30 before telling me that we at least earnd a victory against the soviets. I dont really feel like having to replay this scenario again if i cant achive a major victory here. forgot about cheats, got my major victory when using #igotnukes at turn 28.
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Re: Moscow!
Cheat code #igotnukes will give you a Major Victory. Press CTRL + C to bring up the command console.
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Re: Moscow!
Edit: the victory check looks actually good, but after testing I found it working only sometimes, and when you take objectives in a certain sequence. That looks like a deeper prob with a trigger condition or combination of trigger conditions not behaving correctly.Raven89 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:18 pm well, i have the same problem as op, but i cant achive a major victory in the scenario, i captured both moscow and all 3 suburbs before turn 27 and turn 28. but mission just keeps going to turn 30 before telling me that we at least earnd a victory against the soviets. I dont really feel like having to replay this scenario again if i cant achive a major victory here. forgot about cheats, got my major victory when using #igotnukes at turn 28.
Fortunately there is a way to work around this.
So sorry you ran into this, we will change the trigger.
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Re: Moscow!
I do not understand very well. Quickly by looking, I do not see problem.bebro wrote: ↑Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:14 amEdit: the victory check looks actually good, but after testing I found it working only sometimes, and when you take objectives in a certain sequence. That looks like a deeper prob with a trigger condition or combination of trigger conditions not behaving correctly.Raven89 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:18 pm well, i have the same problem as op, but i cant achive a major victory in the scenario, i captured both moscow and all 3 suburbs before turn 27 and turn 28. but mission just keeps going to turn 30 before telling me that we at least earnd a victory against the soviets. I dont really feel like having to replay this scenario again if i cant achive a major victory here. forgot about cheats, got my major victory when using #igotnukes at turn 28.
Fortunately there is a way to work around this.
So sorry you ran into this, we will change the trigger.
What do you want to say by "Do not lose any original primary VPs" ?
Do you want to say that if you lose any original primary VPs (Volokolamsk, Mozhaysk & Medyn') it is impossible to win the scenario ?
Re: Moscow!
"Do not lose any original primary VPs" is IMO not the problem here.
The problem is the other objective "Secure Moscow center and suburbs" (gold flag and silver flags).
The trigger should IMO work as it is now. But after Raven's post I did tests with AI off, and it does not always work.
It depends in what order you take those flags, which IMO should not play a role at all, but it did.
I've found a way meanwhile to work around that.
The problem is the other objective "Secure Moscow center and suburbs" (gold flag and silver flags).
The trigger should IMO work as it is now. But after Raven's post I did tests with AI off, and it does not always work.
It depends in what order you take those flags, which IMO should not play a role at all, but it did.
I've found a way meanwhile to work around that.
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Re: Moscow!
I think there is a problem in a particular case.
If you lose any original primary VPs, the objective "Do not lose any original primary VPs" will be marked failed but the trigger "Never lose Ger start VHs" will not be disabled. So if you re-capture the VH that you lost, it will be possible to win the scenario at the end.