500 AD global campaign - Year 512 battles are up
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Re: 500 AD global campaign - Year 508 battles are up
I think that's all now... Will process the turn.
Re: 500 AD global campaign - Year 508 battles are up
Here are the main events affecting player characters...
At this point, I think we have...
Ludendorf - Dumnonia
Rex Hurley - Himyarids and Visigoths
Shadowblack - Gepids
Jomni - Wei
Kongxinga - Liang
GrayMouser - Rome
StandardNerd - The Sassanids
I'll put out a call for more players, although things seem to be going smoothly with the current number.
Remember - empires rise and fall, and bigger empires are both more powerful and more fragile. Anyone should feel free to switch realms at any time, either because the strategic situation is getting untenable or you just want to try out a new list. Or, fight to the bitter end and then start a successor state, the son rising like a phoenix to avenge the father.
The events of the turn are as follows... I'll put up a map next, and post a link for the next turn.
The Dumnonians' allies defeated the Franks in Saxonea, the Visigoths in Aremorica, and the Saxons in Kent. The Frankish invasion of Saxonea however gave the uncle of the local Dumnonian-allied warlord a chance to overthrow his nephew, and the region is once again contested.
The Gepids fought off a Roman invasion of Iazgyia, but imperial arms triumphed in the mountain valleys of Colchis. Rome's allies among the tribes along the Euphrates fought off a Persian incursion, while its Armenian allies repulsed raiders from Caucasian Albania. The Circassian tribes of the northernwestern Caucasus, hearing word that the tribes of the steppes were again in motion, sought Roman protection.
(I should have let GrayMouser play Rome's client battles. I forgot to do that - but Rome mostly won anyway.
The Gepids prevailed against the Franks and Romans, and the Alan horsemen of the Danube delta, impressed with these victories, allied themselves to the Gepid federation.
The Himyarids were defeated in battle with the Sassanids' allies in the oases of Hadhramaut, but still managed to extend their influence to the Blemmya clans of the eastern Red Sea region.
Wei was squeezed from north and south, and as a result many of its provincial governors began to slip away from central control. The fall of the capital however has given the empire a chance to retrench somewhat, and the tribes of eastern Tibet have federated with the embattled northern dynasty.
Liang won a series of bloody battles with Wei. It was repulsed in the mountains of Daba but its victory in the central Yellow River valley was sufficiently decisive to allow it to seize the northerners' capital.
At this point, I think we have...
Ludendorf - Dumnonia
Rex Hurley - Himyarids and Visigoths
Shadowblack - Gepids
Jomni - Wei
Kongxinga - Liang
GrayMouser - Rome
StandardNerd - The Sassanids
I'll put out a call for more players, although things seem to be going smoothly with the current number.
Remember - empires rise and fall, and bigger empires are both more powerful and more fragile. Anyone should feel free to switch realms at any time, either because the strategic situation is getting untenable or you just want to try out a new list. Or, fight to the bitter end and then start a successor state, the son rising like a phoenix to avenge the father.
The events of the turn are as follows... I'll put up a map next, and post a link for the next turn.
The Dumnonians' allies defeated the Franks in Saxonea, the Visigoths in Aremorica, and the Saxons in Kent. The Frankish invasion of Saxonea however gave the uncle of the local Dumnonian-allied warlord a chance to overthrow his nephew, and the region is once again contested.
The Gepids fought off a Roman invasion of Iazgyia, but imperial arms triumphed in the mountain valleys of Colchis. Rome's allies among the tribes along the Euphrates fought off a Persian incursion, while its Armenian allies repulsed raiders from Caucasian Albania. The Circassian tribes of the northernwestern Caucasus, hearing word that the tribes of the steppes were again in motion, sought Roman protection.
(I should have let GrayMouser play Rome's client battles. I forgot to do that - but Rome mostly won anyway.
The Gepids prevailed against the Franks and Romans, and the Alan horsemen of the Danube delta, impressed with these victories, allied themselves to the Gepid federation.
The Himyarids were defeated in battle with the Sassanids' allies in the oases of Hadhramaut, but still managed to extend their influence to the Blemmya clans of the eastern Red Sea region.
Wei was squeezed from north and south, and as a result many of its provincial governors began to slip away from central control. The fall of the capital however has given the empire a chance to retrench somewhat, and the tribes of eastern Tibet have federated with the embattled northern dynasty.
Liang won a series of bloody battles with Wei. It was repulsed in the mountains of Daba but its victory in the central Yellow River valley was sufficiently decisive to allow it to seize the northerners' capital.
Last edited by Nijis on Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:19 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Re: 500 AD global campaign - Year 508 battles are up
The other option possibly is let us play two nations on opposite sides of the map for variety and more involvement perhaps...the second is my biggest issue with it, the system is great, history great, five minutes of planning and the turn is over if you get my drift.
Re: 500 AD global campaign - Year 508 battles are up
Thanks! Playing multiple powers can work too - I got your files, and anyone who wants to take two realms (with sufficient distance between them) is more than welcome to do so!
Re: 500 AD global campaign - Year 508 battles are up
Wow. Wei is disintegrating. Let’s see where it goes. I find the Wei armies tricky to play. But I like the challenge. It’s kind of a learning experience trying out several tactics and army setups. The list will get better infantry eventually but will it last that long?
By way. I’m on a business trip for 4 days.
By way. I’m on a business trip for 4 days.
Re: 500 AD global campaign - Year 508 battles are up
Darn rebellious uncles! Don't make me come over there again!
(Shakes fist at troublesome Germans)
What do subsidies do by the way? (I really need to get enough money to actually pacify somewhere!)
(Also, it amuses me to realise that I've basically done a reverse Saxon invasion of Britain.)
(Shakes fist at troublesome Germans)
What do subsidies do by the way? (I really need to get enough money to actually pacify somewhere!)
(Also, it amuses me to realise that I've basically done a reverse Saxon invasion of Britain.)
Re: 500 AD global campaign - Year 508 battles are up
Yeah, the uncles. There is a certain whack-a-mole element to maintaining a sphere of influence... I think this is reasonably historical, given how Rome and Persia used to bounce each other out of Armenia, but maybe I could tone it down a little in future versions.
Subsidies mean you give 50 resources to your client state. (I think you pay 60, but they receive 50). That then allows you to use their army to Intervene or to redeploy to defend your territory. Otherwise you can mostly just use their armies to raid. They will pay for the operation, but it comes out of your subsidy.
Subsidies mean you give 50 resources to your client state. (I think you pay 60, but they receive 50). That then allows you to use their army to Intervene or to redeploy to defend your territory. Otherwise you can mostly just use their armies to raid. They will pay for the operation, but it comes out of your subsidy.
Re: 500 AD global campaign - Year 508 battles are up
I'll get my turns in soon. My observation is that the real and game world is realistically too big! On the Chinese side I've fought a ton of battles (mostly for reunification) since the incentive to go elsewhere is too small. It's going to be a long while till we can get so called crack match ups (Rome versus Han, or in this case, Successor Roman states versus later dynasties.
Re: 500 AD global campaign - Year 508 battles are up
So, Standard Nerd will be taking over the Sassanids. Looks like the two dominant powers in the center of the map are now player-run!
The other reason is that I wanted to make it so that asymmetrical games scenarios - ie, you could play as Rome in 100 CE, and fight on a half dozen fronts against tiny opponents, and call it a victory when you hold the frontiers. Ideally, if the Weir or the Liang unite China they should then have their hands full fending off nomads from the north, Tibetans from the west, and maybe if you're lucky keeping the Silk Road cities and Korea in your sphere of influence. (Ideally there should be someone in the south, the Bai Yue or the Vietnamese, keeping you busy there too.)
I realize though in multiplayer that this might get repetitive, though. At some point I can try to come up with a faster-paced scenario with bigger provinces, maybe 10 years to the turn, and a chance (albeit a challenging one) of playing some great East-West championship round.
So the game is actually designed to make it very difficult to build a really big empire. Part of the reason for this is the singleplayer, which is supposed to run from 700 BC to 500 CE, and not have any power take over the map or last more than a few hundred years. The player is supposed to jump between nations playing the great commanders, the equivalents of Alexander, Liu Bang, Maurya, Caesar, Trajan, or Stilicho, and that's how you get big empires that can last longer.My observation is that the real and game world is realistically too big! On the Chinese side I've fought a ton of battles (mostly for reunification) since the incentive to go elsewhere is too small. It's going to be a long while till we can get so called crack match ups
The other reason is that I wanted to make it so that asymmetrical games scenarios - ie, you could play as Rome in 100 CE, and fight on a half dozen fronts against tiny opponents, and call it a victory when you hold the frontiers. Ideally, if the Weir or the Liang unite China they should then have their hands full fending off nomads from the north, Tibetans from the west, and maybe if you're lucky keeping the Silk Road cities and Korea in your sphere of influence. (Ideally there should be someone in the south, the Bai Yue or the Vietnamese, keeping you busy there too.)
I realize though in multiplayer that this might get repetitive, though. At some point I can try to come up with a faster-paced scenario with bigger provinces, maybe 10 years to the turn, and a chance (albeit a challenging one) of playing some great East-West championship round.
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I appreciate the relalisitc preogrssion of empires though.
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Re: 500 AD global campaign - Year 508 battles are up
Thanks for introducing me Nijis! I look forward to playing with you folks!
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Almost ready for a new turn. I just need to check with Rome, and then I think I will have everyone's orders...
Re: 500 AD global campaign - Year 508 battles are up
The Year 510 battles are up! Lots of people fighting with their client states' armies this turn.
As always, players are encouraged to take the part of any NPC that they want.
In the Wei-Liang contention, the Liang press on against a breakway Wei governor in Qin and raid Wei province.
On the Roman-Persian frontier, rival bedouin confederations clash on the Euphrates.
The Sassanids also do battle on their eastern frontier against the Hunas, while their sphere of influence in Arabia continues to be assailed by the Himyarids.
In northern Europe, the Franks press against Visigothic feudatories and Dumnonia sails back across the North Sea to maintain its sphere of influence in Saxonea.
In eastern Europe, the rising Gepid kingdom meets an invasion force of Ostrogoths in the Roman province of Dacia. If either player wins a decisive victory, the province will fall to them. This is probably a bit of a rules glitch, but might be a bit tricky to fix.
PLAYER VS PLAYER
Liang (kongxinga) army to fight Wei (jomni)client in Qin
Chinese (Southern Qi) vs Northern Dynasties in Mediterranean Hilly
Liang victory results: Reunites
Liang army (kongxinga) to fight Wei garrison (jomni) in Wei
Chinese (Southern Qi) vs Northern Dynasties in Mediterranean Agricultural
Liang (kongxinga)victory results: LootsProvince
Wei (jomni)victory results:
Roman Empire (TheGrayMouser) allies to fight Sassanids (Standard Nerd) client in Anbar
Arab (Bedouin) vs Arab (Bedouin) in Middle Eastern Agricultural
Roman Empre (TheGrayMouser)victory results: RemovesEnemyInfluence
Sassanid clients 19, Roman clients 50
Himyarids (rexhurley) army to fight Sassanids (Standard Nerd) client in Najd
Arab (City) vs Arab (City) in Desert
Himyarids (rexhurley) victory results: LootsProvince
PLAYER VS NPC
Dumnonia (Ludendorf)army to fight Saxons client in Saxonea
Romano-British vs Frankish in Northern European Agricultural
Dumnonia victory results: RemovesEnemyInfluence
Franks army to fight Visigoths client (rexhurley) in Burgundia
Frankish vs Kingdom of Soissons in Mediterranean Hilly
Franks victory results: Conquers
Wei (jomni) allies to fight Yujiulu client in Dzungaria
Avars vs Qiang in Northern European Agricultural
Wei (jomni)victory results: Settles
Hunas army to fight Sassanids (Standard Nerd) client in Sauvira
Hephthalite vs Indian in Middle Eastern Agricultural
Hunas victory results: RemovesEnemyInfluence
Gepids (shadowblack) army to fight Ostrogoths army in Dacia
Gepid vs Ostrogothic in Northern European Agricultural
Gepids (shadowblack) victory results: LootsProvince Conquers
Ostrogoths victory results: Liberates
Ostrogoths army to fight Roman Empre (TheGrayMouser)army in Epirus
Ostrogothic vs Romano-British in Mediterranean Mountainous
Ostrogoths victory results: LootsProvince
Sassanids (Standard Nerd) army to fight Hunas client in Dahae
Sassanid vs Caucasian in Steppe
Sassanids (Standard Nerd) victory results: RemovesEnemyInfluence
Wei (jomni) army to fight Yarlungs client in Kham
Northern Dynasties vs Qiang in Northern European Mountain
Wei (jomni)victory results: RemovesEnemyInfluence
Ostrogoths allies to fight Dumnonia (Ludendorf) client in Suebus
Gepid vs Vandal in Northern European Hilly
Ostrogoths victory results: Settles
Yujiulu allies to fight Sassanids (Standard Nerd) client in Rha
Sabirs vs Sabirs in Steppe
Yujiulu victory results: Settles
NPC VS NPC
Ostrogoths allies to fight Franks client in Boihaemum
Vandal vs Slavs in Northern European Agricultural
Ostrogoths victory results: LootsProvince
Yujiulu army to fight Hunas client in Talas
Rouran vs Turks in Steppe
Yujiulu victory results: Conquers
Guptas army to fight Pallavas client in Andhra
Indian vs Indian in Tropical
Guptas victory results: Conquers
Guptas army to fight Hunas garrison in Kuru
Indian vs Hephthalite in Tropical
Guptas victory results: LootsProvince
...
Yarlungs allies to fight Hunas allies in Casperia
Qiang vs Indian in Middle Eastern Hilly
Yarlungs victory results: LootsProvince
As always, players are encouraged to take the part of any NPC that they want.
In the Wei-Liang contention, the Liang press on against a breakway Wei governor in Qin and raid Wei province.
On the Roman-Persian frontier, rival bedouin confederations clash on the Euphrates.
The Sassanids also do battle on their eastern frontier against the Hunas, while their sphere of influence in Arabia continues to be assailed by the Himyarids.
In northern Europe, the Franks press against Visigothic feudatories and Dumnonia sails back across the North Sea to maintain its sphere of influence in Saxonea.
In eastern Europe, the rising Gepid kingdom meets an invasion force of Ostrogoths in the Roman province of Dacia. If either player wins a decisive victory, the province will fall to them. This is probably a bit of a rules glitch, but might be a bit tricky to fix.
PLAYER VS PLAYER
Liang (kongxinga) army to fight Wei (jomni)client in Qin
Chinese (Southern Qi) vs Northern Dynasties in Mediterranean Hilly
Liang victory results: Reunites
Liang army (kongxinga) to fight Wei garrison (jomni) in Wei
Chinese (Southern Qi) vs Northern Dynasties in Mediterranean Agricultural
Liang (kongxinga)victory results: LootsProvince
Wei (jomni)victory results:
Roman Empire (TheGrayMouser) allies to fight Sassanids (Standard Nerd) client in Anbar
Arab (Bedouin) vs Arab (Bedouin) in Middle Eastern Agricultural
Roman Empre (TheGrayMouser)victory results: RemovesEnemyInfluence
Sassanid clients 19, Roman clients 50
Himyarids (rexhurley) army to fight Sassanids (Standard Nerd) client in Najd
Arab (City) vs Arab (City) in Desert
Himyarids (rexhurley) victory results: LootsProvince
PLAYER VS NPC
Dumnonia (Ludendorf)army to fight Saxons client in Saxonea
Romano-British vs Frankish in Northern European Agricultural
Dumnonia victory results: RemovesEnemyInfluence
Franks army to fight Visigoths client (rexhurley) in Burgundia
Frankish vs Kingdom of Soissons in Mediterranean Hilly
Franks victory results: Conquers
Wei (jomni) allies to fight Yujiulu client in Dzungaria
Avars vs Qiang in Northern European Agricultural
Wei (jomni)victory results: Settles
Hunas army to fight Sassanids (Standard Nerd) client in Sauvira
Hephthalite vs Indian in Middle Eastern Agricultural
Hunas victory results: RemovesEnemyInfluence
Gepids (shadowblack) army to fight Ostrogoths army in Dacia
Gepid vs Ostrogothic in Northern European Agricultural
Gepids (shadowblack) victory results: LootsProvince Conquers
Ostrogoths victory results: Liberates
Ostrogoths army to fight Roman Empre (TheGrayMouser)army in Epirus
Ostrogothic vs Romano-British in Mediterranean Mountainous
Ostrogoths victory results: LootsProvince
Sassanids (Standard Nerd) army to fight Hunas client in Dahae
Sassanid vs Caucasian in Steppe
Sassanids (Standard Nerd) victory results: RemovesEnemyInfluence
Wei (jomni) army to fight Yarlungs client in Kham
Northern Dynasties vs Qiang in Northern European Mountain
Wei (jomni)victory results: RemovesEnemyInfluence
Ostrogoths allies to fight Dumnonia (Ludendorf) client in Suebus
Gepid vs Vandal in Northern European Hilly
Ostrogoths victory results: Settles
Yujiulu allies to fight Sassanids (Standard Nerd) client in Rha
Sabirs vs Sabirs in Steppe
Yujiulu victory results: Settles
NPC VS NPC
Ostrogoths allies to fight Franks client in Boihaemum
Vandal vs Slavs in Northern European Agricultural
Ostrogoths victory results: LootsProvince
Yujiulu army to fight Hunas client in Talas
Rouran vs Turks in Steppe
Yujiulu victory results: Conquers
Guptas army to fight Pallavas client in Andhra
Indian vs Indian in Tropical
Guptas victory results: Conquers
Guptas army to fight Hunas garrison in Kuru
Indian vs Hephthalite in Tropical
Guptas victory results: LootsProvince
...
Yarlungs allies to fight Hunas allies in Casperia
Qiang vs Indian in Middle Eastern Hilly
Yarlungs victory results: LootsProvince
Last edited by Nijis on Sat Jan 26, 2019 3:15 am, edited 1 time in total.
Re: 500 AD global campaign - Year 508 battles are up
And maps of this turn's flashpoints...
Re: 500 AD global campaign - Year 508 battles are up
Oh cool okey dokey if I may I will do the following battles, passwords shown and I will pm you all.
Time for some revenge!
Najd v Standard Nerd pw = Najd
Saxonea v Ludendorf pw = Saxonea
Sauvira v Standard Nerd pw = Sauvira
Dacia v Shadowblack pw = Dacia
Epirus v TGM pw = Epirus
Kham v Jomni pw = Kham
Burgundia v whoever wants it pw = Burgundia
Cheers Rex
Time for some revenge!
Najd v Standard Nerd pw = Najd
Saxonea v Ludendorf pw = Saxonea
Sauvira v Standard Nerd pw = Sauvira
Dacia v Shadowblack pw = Dacia
Epirus v TGM pw = Epirus
Kham v Jomni pw = Kham
Burgundia v whoever wants it pw = Burgundia
Cheers Rex
Re: 500 AD global campaign - Year 508 battles are up
Liang (kongxinga) army to fight Wei (jomni)client in Qin
Chinese (Southern Qi) vs Northern Dynasties in Mediterranean Hilly
Liang victory results: Reunites
Liang army (kongxinga) to fight Wei garrison (jomni) in Wei
Chinese (Southern Qi) vs Northern Dynasties in Mediterranean Agricultural
Liang (kongxinga)victory results: LootsProvince
Wei (jomni)victory results:
I have these set up, will PM the password to Jomni.
I'd like to possibly sub in to a couple of NPC battles. I tried looking for the Burgundia battle, but I think that's taken.
Chinese (Southern Qi) vs Northern Dynasties in Mediterranean Hilly
Liang victory results: Reunites
Liang army (kongxinga) to fight Wei garrison (jomni) in Wei
Chinese (Southern Qi) vs Northern Dynasties in Mediterranean Agricultural
Liang (kongxinga)victory results: LootsProvince
Wei (jomni)victory results:
I have these set up, will PM the password to Jomni.
I'd like to possibly sub in to a couple of NPC battles. I tried looking for the Burgundia battle, but I think that's taken.
Re: 500 AD global campaign - Year 508 battles are up
Yup sorry Kong it has gone, if you want to do one of the others thats not been done yet and pm me a password we can have at it if you like