Using FOGAM armies with FOGR

[vexillia]

I need a bit of help please. Is there an accepted way of mapping FOGAM troop types to FOGR?

I remember seeing some posts about mixed AM/R tournaments it but can't seem to find them.

What I'm contemplating is using the FOGAM lists with FOGR points & rules so that all the 15th century armies I have hiding in toolboxes can get a run out. I'm not going to invest in FOGAM v2.0 just for the occasional game and haven't played v1.0 for a couple of years.

If there's anything other than troop types I should take in to account please let me know.

Thanks.

[Paulkit0]

This is the thread Martin. viewtopic.php?f=109&t=62412 .

[vexillia]

Ta.

[vexillia]

Using your thread and some database technology I've identified the few areas where the two don't match exactly or you have suggested a solution for the drilled/undrilled split:

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AM                     RE (matched)      RE (unmatched)
===                    ===               ===    
Cataphracts            -                 -    
Field defences         -                 Field fortifications 
Chariots (Heavy)       -                 - 
Chariots (Light)       -                 -   
Chariots (Scythed)     -                 -                   
Heavy Foot             Heavy Foot        Warriors (Undrilled)            
Inspired Commander     -                 Great Commander     
Knights                -                 Gendarmes   
Medium Foot            Medium Foot       Warriors (Undrilled)  

Did you come up with anything for Cataphracts? Heavily armoured cavalry with light lance perhaps? I'm not too concerned about the absence of a FOGR category for chariots.

Looking at the weapons the unmatched are:

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AM                     RE (matched)      RE (unmatched)
===                    ===               ===
Firearm                -                 Arquebus     
Lancers                -                 Light/Heavy lance                
Longbow                -                 Bow          
Pikemen                -                 Pike                                                   
Spear (Defensive )     -                 Spear      
Spear (Offensive)      -                 Spear                 
Swordsmen (skilled)    -                 Swordsmen   

I don't think the spear is a problem and your 1400 date for knights to use heavy lance looks spot on.

Right off to do a couple of lists.

[hazelbark]

A few years back we did a WOTR civil war using FOGR.

The relative cheapness of bow made the armies much larger.

We really enjoyed the game.