Victory or Death! Order of Battle: Endsieg has been announced!

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Re: Victory or Death! Order of Battle: Endsieg has been announced!

Post by Horst » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:46 am

I don't care that much about the original campaigns, but rather finally want all important WW2 units in the game that a certain other game series offered from day-1 on. It was the right decision to finally complete the major warmongering nation at first before the rest. This opens all doors to create whatever custom scenarios with only few units missing what will further come with the rest of the DLC-line.
I'm also looking forward for just another update that hopefully gets rid of most bugs this game is currently infested with.

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Re: Victory or Death! Order of Battle: Endsieg has been announced!

Post by bebro » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:55 am

Roughly 2/3 of the campaign in ES are historical battles, or based on those.

As for Ger winning - good old PG had this option, PzC had this too. If ppl prefer other choices and/or want to voice criticism on ES it's all fine, but don't expect me to waste my time with "are you nazis" nonsense.

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Re: Victory or Death! Order of Battle: Endsieg has been announced!

Post by terminator » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:58 am

kondi754 wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:50 am
As for Endsieg, I have very mixed feelings (I think this part is outstanding, but most of the scenarios are fictional so I'm torn ...), but I can't say anything more because I promised not to reveal the details of the work
For me most of the scenarios are historical : on 16 scenarios, 11 are historic. Of course because German are supposed won it does not respect the history.

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Re: Victory or Death! Order of Battle: Endsieg has been announced!

Post by Admiral_Horthy » Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:23 am

bebro wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:55 am
Roughly 2/3 of the campaign in ES are historical battles, or based on those.

As for Ger winning - good old PG had this option, PzC had this too. If ppl prefer other choices and/or want to voice criticism on ES it's all fine, but don't expect me to waste my time with "are you nazis" nonsense.
Exactly that what I tried to say)) How about invading Britain or the USA itself like in old gold Panzer General eh? How nazi it is :mrgreen: :mrgreen: I am waiting a Soviet long campaign so am I commie? :P :roll:

Personally I imagined a different axis victory path, something like a Moscow redux or a late Sealion like in PG, but no problem with this one. Actually Kursk being such a turnpoint - IF started earlier (who needs those unreliable Panthers anyway) it could have turned the tide and finished the work Manstein started.

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Re: Victory or Death! Order of Battle: Endsieg has been announced!

Post by Andy2012 » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:42 pm

bjarmson wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:49 pm
Oh great, another Deutschland über alles hypothetical, fantasy scenario. This follows along the lines of the idiotic Kriegsmarine scenario, where the German Navy, which wasn't even a threat to the GB Navy, let alone one joined by US naval forces, prevails. Are you people Nazis? You do realize that the USA, USSR, and GB won the war, and that after 1943 it was essentially a foregone conclusion, though still a bloody two year struggle. Where are the scenarios regarding Allied victory? Are you no longer making actual WWII scenarios?
Dude, I thumbed through your post history and almost all your posts are negative, destructive complaints with a bit of a whiny undertone.
Is this really necessary? :roll:

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Re: Victory or Death! Order of Battle: Endsieg has been announced!

Post by CoolDTA » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:36 pm

bebro wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:55 am
If ppl prefer other choices and/or want to voice criticism on ES it's all fine, but don't expect me to waste my time with "are you nazis" nonsense.
Hear, hear.

I thought this would be a "fish free zone". I was wrong. :cry: I trust Andy to be extra vigilant and I'm sure he will be. :)

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Re: Victory or Death! Order of Battle: Endsieg has been announced!

Post by koopanique » Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:57 pm

I am really glad and excited about Endsieg, especially the hypothetical Western Front scenarios.
But I have one question: why isn't it called "Endkrieg"?

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Re: Victory or Death! Order of Battle: Endsieg has been announced!

Post by bru888 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:05 pm

koopanique wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:57 pm
I am really glad and excited about Endsieg, especially the hypothetical Western Front scenarios.
But I have one question: why isn't it called "Endkrieg"?
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Re: Victory or Death! Order of Battle: Endsieg has been announced!

Post by bru888 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:20 pm

Just for googles - I mean, giggles - I went back and popped "endkrieg" into the old Translator. I've been thinking it meant "final battle" which may have sounded a bit too preordained for the developer's tastes. It turns out Google has a different idea; if this is accurate, then I'd say "Endsieg" was definitely the right call! :)

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Re: Victory or Death! Order of Battle: Endsieg has been announced!

Post by Duplex » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:59 am

How about...how about....how about...
how about...playing as China...?
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Re: Victory or Death! Order of Battle: Endsieg has been announced!

Post by rocklobb » Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:04 pm

It makes sense to complete the German side of the campaign before moving on to the Allies. The Allied campaigns in Europe will serve as the proper culmination of the (official content) OOB WWII experience.

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Re: Victory or Death! Order of Battle: Endsieg has been announced!

Post by GUNDOBALDO08 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:22 pm

West Allied campaign but Soviet also, I hope Devs dont forget Soviet campaign!

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Re: Victory or Death! Order of Battle: Endsieg has been announced!

Post by bjarmson » Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:47 pm

To Andy2012: Duuuuude, if I've bought the product, it gives me the right to criticize it. WTF does destructive mean? And "whiney undertone", here I thought the job of moderator was to limit personal attacks, not a license to make them. You didn't even bother to address a single point made in my post. Does your moderator position require you to be nothing more than a company shill?

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Re: Victory or Death! Order of Battle: Endsieg has been announced!

Post by 13obo » Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:20 pm

You have one point and that is "why no allied campaign". Next time maybe just say that instead of a tirade about who won, asking if devs are n*zi, etc. Anyway, clearly troll so whatever. Be with peace.

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Re: Victory or Death! Order of Battle: Endsieg has been announced!

Post by zakblood » Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:26 pm

please keep the posts in here civil everyone, or i'll edit and or remove / or warn some posters

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Re: Victory or Death! Order of Battle: Endsieg has been announced!

Post by GUNDOBALDO08 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:32 pm

Devs please post some news about dlc. It will help stop any other unusefull discussion...

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Re: Victory or Death! Order of Battle: Endsieg has been announced!

Post by Andy2012 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:49 pm

bjarmson wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:47 pm
Does your moderator position require you to be nothing more than a company shill?
Well, the job description read "Must be willing to wade knee-deep through online dickwads". I thought this was a joke. Turns out it is not. :mrgreen:

@all: I can safely say that this DLC is very good. I had a lot of fun already in beta, the polished product will be well worth your money. Promise.

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Re: Victory or Death! Order of Battle: Endsieg has been announced!

Post by VPaulus » Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:32 pm

@bjarmson
Please tone down your posts.

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Re: Victory or Death! Order of Battle: Endsieg has been announced!

Post by 13obo » Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:27 pm

May I ask the beta-testers if they noticed that the difficulty level increased given the DLC will cover the final and toughest years for the Wehrmacht? Not sure if this breaches any NDAs- a simple "increase/decrease" and "a bit/a lot" would suffice to satiate my curiosity!

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Re: Victory or Death! Order of Battle: Endsieg has been announced!

Post by sillygoy » Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:58 pm

@bjarmson

Why are you not happy? I for one am tired of storming the beaches of Normandy or planting the red flag at the Reichstag. OoB is the only strategy game where I can meaningfully play as the Axis powers.

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