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Re: FOG2DL player ratings

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Morbio wrote: Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:59 am Thanks... what's a rating point?
See the first post in this thread.
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Re: FOG2DL player ratings

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My apologies :)
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Re: Army statisics: FOG2DL

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Dear Gods,

Something that I think would be very interesting to see would be to have the results grouped by the army types that Mike developed. May you inspire someone to embrace this project.....for I am but a humble soldier, good with a sword but naught much else :).
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Re: FOG2DL player ratings

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this is what you use for choosing players division level ? so i don't play in FOL2DL i will start at 0 in season 3 in division F ?
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Re: FOG2DL player ratings

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Sennacherib wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 7:58 am this is what you use for choosing players division level ? so i don't play in FOL2DL i will start at 0 in season 3 in division F ?
The ratings can help me to allocate some players to divisions each season, but the main factor deciding where a player will play is where they finished in the table in the previous season. If you decide to enter Season 3 then I would use the ratings to help me allocate a division(s) to you as you did not play in Season 2. You are currently number 7 in the ratings, so it is quite likely that you will be placed at Division A level. I cannot say definitely because I do not know how many players from each A division will return next season. But you definitely will not be placed lower than the B divisions.
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Re: FOG2DL player ratings

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it's ok don't mind ! you know that for me the army you've played make 50% of the result ! 8)
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Re: FOG2DL records

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stockwellpete wrote: Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:47 pm
Biggest winning margins in a single match

Themed Event (all stages) - 45 Ludendorf (Sassanids) beat shawkhan2 (Palmyrans) 45-0 Season 2
Umm I had a 62-7 match in the first round of the themed event this season.
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Re: FOG2DL records

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SpeedyCM wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 11:19 pm
Umm I had a 62-7 match in the first round of the themed event this season.
Against the eventual winner of the tournament too. Thanks, corrected now. :wink:
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Re: Indicative poll concerning army allocation

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We have a clear result - 64% of you prefer option 2 where the FOG2DL ratings are used to allocate the ratings to players in the core league sections so this method will be introduced for Season 3. The other 2 options scored 18% each. Thanks to everyone who participated in the poll. :D
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Re: Some changes for Season 3

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The result of the second poll has shown 64% support for the idea that the FOG2DL ratings should be used to help allocate armies to players in the core league sections of the FOG2DL. This method will be introduced for Season 3.
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The Early Middle Ages section will open in Season 3!

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Looking ahead to what might be offered in Season 3 (starting October 1st), I think it is just about tenable to open up another core section of the league, namely Early Middle Ages. This is from 500AD to 1000AD and will include any armies that are dated within this period. Early Middle Ages will replace "Enemies of Rome" and will eventually include later armies such as the Carolingian Franks and Vikings. There are 34 armies available so far . . .

Alans 25-650AD
Anglo-Saxons 449-599AD
Arab (Bedouin) 300-636AD
Arab (city) 300-633AD
Armenian 477-627AD
Avars 553-557AD
Avars 558-631AD
Bretons 411-579AD
Bretons 580-1072AD
Byzantines 493-550BC*
Byzantines 551-578AD*
Byzantines 579-599AD*
Franks 496-599AD
Gepids 493-567AD
Hepthalites 350-570AD
Huns, Western 455-559AD
Huns, Sabir 463-558AD
Indians 320-545AD
Indians 546-599AD
Lombards 493-567AD
Lombards 568-569AD
Lombards 570-649AD
Moorish 350-698AD
Ostrogoths 493-561AD
Pictish 477-850AD
Romano-British 407-599AD
Sassanid Persians 477-590AD
Sassanid Persians 591-628AD
Scots-Irish 477-846AD
Slavs 500-599AD
Turkish 552-599AD
Vandals 500-534AD
Visigoths 419-621AD
Welsh 477-599AD

*note on Byzantine lists

Re: The Rally Point (discussion and questions)
Post by rbodleyscott » 12 Aug 2018 09:52

The Byzantines will be getting an increase in their maximum number of infantry units. The 551-578 list will also get some 480-strong units of pre-dismounted Herul/Lombard lancers.
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Re: The Early Middle Ages section will open in Season 3!

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I am re-posting Richard's contribution from "The Rally Point" about a change that is coming in the next patch for these armies . . .

Re: The Rally Point (discussion and questions)
Post by rbodleyscott » 12 Aug 2018 09:52

Note that these Sassanid lists will be getting a major revamp in the next official update, which will make them a more flexible option, including some better quality Heavy Foot (Undrilled Heavy Foot, Average, Protected, Light Spear, Swordsmen) in addition to the levy spearmen, Massed Archers and the option to have some Above Average armoured horse archers rather than all Superior.

The earlier Sassanid lists will be divided into 224-349 AD and 350-476 AD lists. The earlier list is transitional between a Parthian-style composition and the current Sassanid composition. The later list is similar to the current Sassanid 224-476 AD list, but with the additions listed above.

The Byzantines will be getting an increase in their maximum number of infantry units. The 551-578 list will also get some 480-strong units of pre-dismounted Herul/Lombard lancers.

This update is likely to be released just before or soon after the FOG2DL season begins. But the lists won't be available to view prior to specifying army choices.
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Important: changes in the next patch 27/9

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These changes have already been indicated by Richard in "The Rally Point" and they will be introduced with the next patch that will coincide with the release of the next DLC (due for release September 27th).

Re: The Rally Point (discussion and questions)
Post by rbodleyscott » 12 Aug 2018 09:59

Changes in the next update that might affect army choice:

1) Heavy Weapon will now get 100 POA vs mounted at impact (unless the infantry are charging mounted shock troops)
2) 50% Heavy Weapon units will get 100 POA at impact and 50 POA in melee.
3) 50% Defensive Spearmen units will get 100 POA at impact and 50 POA in melee.
4) Heavy chariots impact POA in open terrain vs any except Lancers, Elephants, Light Foot, Light Horse or steady non-charging foot who are Pike, Offensive Spearmen or Defensive Spearmen increased to +150.
5) Points cost of Carthaginian/Kyrenean chariots reduced from 56 to 52.
6) Chariots mitigation vs shooting by bows, slings and javelins increased from 16% to 28%. (The same as Armoured Cavalry)

The Parthians, Indo-Parthians and Kushans will be able to field some of their unarmoured horse archers as Cavalry following the next update. The Saka, Huns etc. work best with most of their horse archers as Cavalry anyway. (If they are actually trying to win the game rather than play for a draw right from the start, which this and other rule changes would discourage).

This update is likely to be released just before, or soon after, the FOG2DL season begins. But the lists won't be available to view prior to specifying army choices.
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Re: Players' Guide to the FOG2DL

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Updated for Season 3.
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Re: FOG2DL records

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Yeah he had the misfortune to have horrible flat terrain as the Persians against my Greeks.
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Re: Army statisics: FOG2DL

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Very interesting, thanks for the work.
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Re: Army statisics: FOG2DL

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Agreed, interesting, thanks for the effort. Looks like other than the Indians and Mountain Indians and some of the Carthag lists, more armies aren't very far above 50/50.

Other armies (ahem, Slave Revolt) could use some love.
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Re: Army statisics: FOG2DL

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76mm wrote: Sat Aug 25, 2018 11:06 pm Other armies (ahem, Slave Revolt) could use some love.
I am sure they could do with some emotional support, but it would a bit bizarre if they were a "good" army.
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Re: Army statisics: FOG2DL

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rbodleyscott wrote: Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:06 am I am sure they could do with some emotional support, but it would a bit bizarre if they were a "good" army.
Nobody's saying that they should be a "good" army, but if they had some normal medium troops (Thracians, etc.) and/or a couple of superior troops, it would make them more competitive and probably more realistic, if anything (no medium Thracians among the slaves?!). They are fun to play but very difficult to win with.
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Themed Event for Season 3

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I have been doing some work on the next Themed Event, which will be called "Age of Belisarius", featuring various 6thC AD armies. I have 9 possible match-ups that will have to be reduced to 6 for the tournament. The first three match-ups will be single games, the second three matches will be paired games (knock-out stage). I want to keep whatever we decide on in chronological order and I certainly want at least three of the Byzantine match-ups to be included.

The possible match-ups are . . .

1. Byzantines (493-550AD) v Vandals (500-534AD)
2. Lombards (493-567AD) v Gepids (493-567AD)
3. Byzantines (493-550AD or 551-578AD) v Ostrogoths (493-561AD)
4. Byzantines (551-578AD) v Sassanids (477-590AD)
5. Avars (558-631AD) v Hunnic, Sabir (463-558AD)
6. Byzantines (551-578AD) v Slavs (500-599AD)
7. Avars (558-631AD) v Gepids (493-567AD)
8. Byzantines (551-578AD) v Lombards (568-9AD)
9. Franks (496-599AD) v Avars (558-631AD)
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