FoG:R Update - an update
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FoG:R Update - an update
As I have not yet had anything back from Slitherine about how they want the update distributed, and Godendag is very soon, I thought it would be good to share with people the documents that will feed into the formal update document.
These are in a zip file here - https://www.dropbox.com/s/bh3tpk2ck84gs ... s.zip?dl=0
Some you may have seen before. As they are still work in progress some still have references to add, but hopefully most things are clear.
These are in a zip file here - https://www.dropbox.com/s/bh3tpk2ck84gs ... s.zip?dl=0
Some you may have seen before. As they are still work in progress some still have references to add, but hopefully most things are clear.
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Re: FoG:R Update - an update
Any chance of an update on the update update?
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Re: FoG:R Update - an update
It'll happen
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Re: FoG:R Update - an update
And it has
Following recent comments here are a set of updated draft documents.
I’ve remembered to include the Autobreak table this time – 2 versions, one for bases lost and one for bases remaining so you can use the one that you are comfortable with. Hopefully I got the numbers right … If in doubt the bases losses one is correct.
Updated the Artillery in Contact one as well – I’ve gone with just leaving the Art as it was before temporary capture for the cases where it is captured and the enemy BG is no longer in contact in the JAP and included a note at the end to make this (hopefully) clear as it is essentially a change from the original rules. Also updated the PoA table to take away the – PoA for captured/recaptured art shooting in line with this.
For those attending Godendag perhaps I could suggest that these are the docs we use – unless something egregious is spotted?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/r5k5jttubbn28 ... 2.zip?dl=0
Following recent comments here are a set of updated draft documents.
I’ve remembered to include the Autobreak table this time – 2 versions, one for bases lost and one for bases remaining so you can use the one that you are comfortable with. Hopefully I got the numbers right … If in doubt the bases losses one is correct.
Updated the Artillery in Contact one as well – I’ve gone with just leaving the Art as it was before temporary capture for the cases where it is captured and the enemy BG is no longer in contact in the JAP and included a note at the end to make this (hopefully) clear as it is essentially a change from the original rules. Also updated the PoA table to take away the – PoA for captured/recaptured art shooting in line with this.
For those attending Godendag perhaps I could suggest that these are the docs we use – unless something egregious is spotted?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/r5k5jttubbn28 ... 2.zip?dl=0
Nik Gaukroger
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If he does not, why humiliate him?" - Canon Sydney Smith
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Re: FoG:R Update - an update
And another - hopefully pretty much there now.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pcyhy2ca92s7e ... L.zip?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pcyhy2ca92s7e ... L.zip?dl=0
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Re: FoG:R Update - an update
The link goes to a removed file!!
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Re: FoG:R Update - an update
Apologies.
I realised I hadn't included all of the existing list errata in the list document and so removed the zip file whilst I updated it. Took rather longer than expected ...
The following link should now be OK.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/br8g69fvorgpu ... L.zip?dl=0
I realised I hadn't included all of the existing list errata in the list document and so removed the zip file whilst I updated it. Took rather longer than expected ...
The following link should now be OK.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/br8g69fvorgpu ... L.zip?dl=0
Nik Gaukroger
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Re: FoG:R Update - an update
Not totally useful to those of us without a dropbox account...
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Re: FoG:R Update - an update
It should be public and downloadable by anyone.
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Re: FoG:R Update - an update
Thanks. Gave it a try and that worked.
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Re: FoG:R Update - an update
The update gives how many commanded shot each army list can have, but not how many can be used in the allied lists. This needs to be defined.
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Re: FoG:R Update - an update
Only apples to the Early TYWV Swedes. Here is a link to download an update of the lists document - https://www.dropbox.com/s/xqaq04vn37wz0 ... .docx?dl=0benjones1211 wrote:The update gives how many commanded shot each army list can have, but not how many can be used in the allied lists. This needs to be defined.
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Re: FoG:R Update - an update
Commanded Shot : Some clarifications
The effect of Protection only applies against mounted opponents and mitigates a – or - - PoA (see PoA tables) or Better Armour (see Battle Group Better Armour and Quality). If there is no PoA or Better Armour to negate, then a Protected file fights as 1 Quality Level higher for close combat dice re-rolls (but not for any other dice rolls).
1) mitigates a – or - - PoA, : So does that mean a -- is no PoA disadvantage or just reduced to a - . Implies its no PoA disadvantage
2) or Better Armour : As Protected Horse/Det Horse/Cavaliers ignore better armour anyway (when fighting mounted) why do we need this??
From the Quality rerolls and better armour section.
Types that ignore Better Armour:
• Shot
• Troops armed with Heavy Weapons
• Elephants
• War Wagons
• If fighting against mounted opponent:- Protected Horse, Protected Determined Horse, or Protected Cavaliers
Possible better wording.
The effect of Protection only applies against mounted opponents and mitigates a single – PoA (reducing -- to - or - to no PoA disadvantage) (see PoA tables). If there is no PoA to negate, then a Protected file fights as 1 Quality Level higher for close combat dice re-rolls (but not for any other dice rolls).
The effect of Protection only applies against mounted opponents and mitigates a – or - - PoA (see PoA tables) or Better Armour (see Battle Group Better Armour and Quality). If there is no PoA or Better Armour to negate, then a Protected file fights as 1 Quality Level higher for close combat dice re-rolls (but not for any other dice rolls).
1) mitigates a – or - - PoA, : So does that mean a -- is no PoA disadvantage or just reduced to a - . Implies its no PoA disadvantage
2) or Better Armour : As Protected Horse/Det Horse/Cavaliers ignore better armour anyway (when fighting mounted) why do we need this??
From the Quality rerolls and better armour section.
Types that ignore Better Armour:
• Shot
• Troops armed with Heavy Weapons
• Elephants
• War Wagons
• If fighting against mounted opponent:- Protected Horse, Protected Determined Horse, or Protected Cavaliers
Possible better wording.
The effect of Protection only applies against mounted opponents and mitigates a single – PoA (reducing -- to - or - to no PoA disadvantage) (see PoA tables). If there is no PoA to negate, then a Protected file fights as 1 Quality Level higher for close combat dice re-rolls (but not for any other dice rolls).
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Re: FoG:R Update - an update
Hi Ben,
As ever thanks for the feedback.
As, IMO, the PoA table is clear about the effect I'm OK with what we have at present. the bit about better armour is, indeed, essentially redundant, but as a significant change from the printed rules I wanted to reinforce it.
However, as it is (alas) likely that there will be further tweaks needed to the various docs as players get to use them in play I will take the opportunity at a later date to amend if deemed necessary.
As ever thanks for the feedback.
As, IMO, the PoA table is clear about the effect I'm OK with what we have at present. the bit about better armour is, indeed, essentially redundant, but as a significant change from the printed rules I wanted to reinforce it.
However, as it is (alas) likely that there will be further tweaks needed to the various docs as players get to use them in play I will take the opportunity at a later date to amend if deemed necessary.
Nik Gaukroger
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Re: FoG:R Update - an update
Another one that might need to be clarified
The minimum of mounted Battle Troops in the Core Troops section of the army list that must be fielded (if they don't already meet this) rises to 8 bases with the following exceptions:
• Later Spanish
• Covenanting Rebels
• Monmouth Rebellion
• Scots Jacobite
Perhaps this should include
Later Louis XIV French in Spain
As they have the 8 minimum reduced to 4 in Spain, as per * instructions, this will avoid complications as the above and the * in the French list clash and may cause arguments about which has precedence.
The minimum of mounted Battle Troops in the Core Troops section of the army list that must be fielded (if they don't already meet this) rises to 8 bases with the following exceptions:
• Later Spanish
• Covenanting Rebels
• Monmouth Rebellion
• Scots Jacobite
Perhaps this should include
Later Louis XIV French in Spain
As they have the 8 minimum reduced to 4 in Spain, as per * instructions, this will avoid complications as the above and the * in the French list clash and may cause arguments about which has precedence.
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Re: FoG:R Update - an update
Probably a good idea for clarity.
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Re: FoG:R Update - an update
There are some others as well
Restoration British in Tangiers or Scotland
Possibly just a mention that any * exclusions for specific options take precedence.
Restoration British in Tangiers or Scotland
Possibly just a mention that any * exclusions for specific options take precedence.
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Re: FoG:R Update - an update
Let me know when we have a final version and i can upload it to the bhgs site
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Re: FoG:R Update - an update
Was this project ever completed? If so, where can I find it?
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Probably easiest to use the BHGS site links - http://www.bhgs.org.uk/fogr-tournament-rules.html#
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