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Pursuers in contact to side...
Here's a photo of a situation from a club game which I'd like some help with:
The pike block on the right (pale green shields) broke its frontal opponents and was left in side edge contact with an enemy battlegroup. My questions are:
(1) How many fight in overlap?
(2) What can the pikes do when it's their turn? Can they turn 90 degrees to face (and fight) the enemy? Do they have to conform in some way?
The pike block on the right (pale green shields) broke its frontal opponents and was left in side edge contact with an enemy battlegroup. My questions are:
(1) How many fight in overlap?
(2) What can the pikes do when it's their turn? Can they turn 90 degrees to face (and fight) the enemy? Do they have to conform in some way?
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Re: Pursuers in contact to side...
Any base in side edge contact with the front rank enemy base and those behind such contact. Max 2
It can move off, cannot turn as it is in overlap
It can move off, cannot turn as it is in overlap
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Re: Pursuers in contact to side...
So in this case you'd get 1 dice as you only have 1 base in contact.
As Phil said except a third option is to contract into a single element wide column which would give you two dice
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You course being pike, they would have to move 3" to contract, meaning g they can't.
The other option is to turn 180, which would give two dice on a 4 rather than one dice on a five.
The other option is to turn 180, which would give two dice on a 4 rather than one dice on a five.
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Can't turn 180. In overlap
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Re: Pursuers in contact to side...
Are you sure Phil? Page 48 - "move normally in the manoeuvre phase" would seem to allow this.Can't turn 180. In overlap
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Re: Pursuers in contact to side...
D'oh, was thinking 90. Can't turn 90
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Re: Pursuers in contact to side...
Whose right
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Re: Pursuers in contact to side...
Page 76 says one of the options for a BG in side edge to side edge contact with an enemy BG is "turn 90 degrees to face it". However the posters on this thread seem to agree the Pikes can not turn 90 degrees to initiate melee combat. What am I missing?
Thanks, Terry G.
Thanks, Terry G.
Re: Pursuers in contact to side...
If you read the beginning of page 76 it states:
"Battle groups in side edge to side edge contact are not committed to close combat, and are free to move away. If they do not move away, no combat occurs unless they are eligible to fight as an overlap. If not eligible to fight as an overlap, they can engage in meless as follows:
A battle group in side-edge to side-ege contact with an enemy battle group can turn 90 degrees to face it, "
So as the battle group is eligible to provide an overlap it can't turn 90 degrees.
"Battle groups in side edge to side edge contact are not committed to close combat, and are free to move away. If they do not move away, no combat occurs unless they are eligible to fight as an overlap. If not eligible to fight as an overlap, they can engage in meless as follows:
A battle group in side-edge to side-ege contact with an enemy battle group can turn 90 degrees to face it, "
So as the battle group is eligible to provide an overlap it can't turn 90 degrees.
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Re: Pursuers in contact to side...
Oddly enough, Dave is correct.