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Hi all!

The cursor in the editor has developed an oddity I need to get rid of. The cursor is so way off that some tasks, notably deleting objects, is virtually impossible without destroying the whole neighborhood in the process. In the pic, the gate is being dragged along by the cursor which is, as you can see, nowhere near the object. Moving objects is still possible as you can at least see it. Deleting objects, the "eraser" point is invisible and there's no way of knowing what gets deleted.

According to the manual, "pressing delete will remove any object currently under the cursor". Does not happen. Otherwise, the game seems to be functioning fine.

I reinstalled the game a week or two ago and updated it to Mandate of Heaven.

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can we just have a report to rule out anything on your end thanks,.

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You certainly can.
Note that my PS and FOG2 editors seem to work perfectly. Forgot to mention that.

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thanks, this is just for the developer to look at tbh,.

Windows 10 Home 64-bit
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4460 CPU @ 3.20GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.2GHz
Memory: 6144MB RAM

User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)

Card name: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
Dedicated Memory: 112 MB

Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)

Realtek High Definition Audio
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.7543 (English)
Date and Size: 23.6.2015 (old)
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the cursor maybe to do with the screen size / resolution etc but developer would need to confirm

for me you may have to play around with some 4:3 resolutions, Minor correction: the aspect ratio of 1280x1024 is 5:4, not 4:3. At a pixel aspect ratio of 4:3, the pixel-height of an image with a pixel-width 1280 would actually be 960, not 1024.

as altering the image to fit or stretch will make the cursor incorrect for a guess? but i maybe wrong, easy way it to alter the res and check or wait for the developer to comment.
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Pip may know the answer to this. I do not. Will point him at this thread.
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I would try running in a number of different resolutions, most simply in a window, and see if the issue persists.

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Pip,

Tried different resolutions. Problem persists.

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I honestly don't know what to suggest. What is your monitor setup? Clearly nobody else is having this issue, so we need to determine the cause.

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Hi Pip!

Monitor setup being..?

To demonstrate the problem further, see pic above. Trying to delete the stone tower under the cursor pressing DELETE (L). Nothing happens. Moving the cursor slowly around, still pressing DELETE, the tower in the upper left hand corner eventually disappears (R). Different angles, zooming levels, scale of the building (SHIFT+HOME) etc. complicate things even more. Trying to delete a scaled up Japanese stone tower, for example, usually ends up the tower standing proudly in the middle of a large empty area where the rest of the castle used to be.

I can't make head or tail of this but it just can't be the way the editor was designed.

I hope we get to the bottom of this. The object section is currently unusable.

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eg do you use one or more etc

spreading a image across more than one screen etc

is it a monitor or a tv screen etc, as something off with the pixels, so Pip wishes to understand on what'c causing it, as to understand give more of a chance to fix and issue etc
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It's a 4:3 old monitor. The issue might be related with the 4:3 resolution.
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that's what i thought also in my first post on it, seems it's a pixel or so out which alter the cursor :cry:
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Hi guys!

It's an ancient - my wife says 7 years or so - Samsung Syncmaster 913N, 20". No other monitors. Not much of a setup, really.
zakblood_slith wrote:that's what i thought also in my first post on it, seems it's a pixel or so out which alter the cursor :cry:
Is there a fix to it? This thing drives me crazy.

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if there's a menu to go into on the monitor and alter the settings, somewhat, but tbh it's trial and error, as while a odd pixel may not seem much, it's makes a load of difference on the display from the menu items being incorrectly selected to what your displaying on the screenshot, as where you think the mouse is to where the game and o/s is, is slightly off, so yes it should be fixable on your end, by altering the setting in the menu of the monitor etc, but may take a few goes to alter it, as it's a resizing issue, is what both the tech support guys think, where as the developer and admin may also agree when they read the updated post etc
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Do you see any offset when hovering over buttons on (e.g.) the main menu?

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as it's an onboard GPU / CPU you may need to display the tools for it,

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https://www.intel.co.uk/content/www/uk/en/support/articles/000005596/graphics-drivers.html
Enabling the Tray Icon

Right-click the desktop and select Screen Resolution (Windows 7* or Windows 8*) or Properties (Windows XP*).

Select Advanced Settings (Windows 7 or Windows 8) or Advanced (Windows XP).

Navigate to the Intel® Graphics Control Panel tab.

Select the check box for Show Tray Icon.

Select Apply > OK.

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https://www.intel.co.uk/content/www/uk/en/support/articles/000005637/graphics-drivers.html
and it's this part you want to see what the settings are on, and alter if you can, may need to do quite a few to see any difference in game (trial and error i'm afraid)
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to support the monitor res size
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[quote="pipfromslitherine"]Do you see any offset when hovering over buttons on (e.g.) the main menu?

None.
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[quote="zakblood_slith"]as it's an onboard GPU / CPU you may need to display the tools for it,

If it's that complicated I guess I might as well by a new monitor. 7 years is a venerable age for one and it's bound to die any given day anyway. The technical reasoning behind the purchase maybe a little difficult for the finance department to understand but she'll get over it. 4:3 is not a good idea, then?

Thanks for your help, guys. Much appreciated.

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here's a good read and may put her mind at ease,

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https://www.quora.com/Why-are-4-3-monitors-so-rare-these-days-2016
it's the most up todate one i could find, and even then it's wrote in Jul 23 2016, so a few years old now.

and tbh your hardware (pc) is also old now as well, as while it will play most of the games you have, it also won't last for ever either, for me 3 years is if your lucky as about as good as most get, 5 to 7 is rare, new stuff now days is cheaper as one it doesn't last as long, and most find they just about last until the warranty runs out, so 1 to 3 years over that is very very lucky now days.
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new stuff now days is cheaper as one it doesn't last as long, and most find they just about last until the warranty runs out]

Ain't that the truth. My 3 yo pc just died in July. Luckily the cord escaped unharmed.

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