Missing units in Endsieg

Order of Battle is a series of operational WW2 games starting with the Pacific War and then on to Europe!

Moderators: The Artistocrats, Order of Battle Moderators

Post Reply
GUNDOBALDO08
Sergeant Major - Armoured Train
Sergeant Major - Armoured Train
Posts: 570
Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:07 pm

Missing units in Endsieg

Post by GUNDOBALDO08 »

I’m excited about release of Endsieg, but firstly I checked new units list.
So i noticed Devs missed this important (in my opinion) units, and I list them and hope they will put in future patches or dlc:

Germans:
Me 163
Stug IV
Marder IIIM
Panzer II Ausf L Lucks
Panzergrenadier
Volksturm (the for soldier unit in Endsieg is actually Volksgrenadier so devs has to change the name)

Russian:
Ba20 scout car
T70
KV1S
T34/57
76mm Zis3 antitank
I185 fighter
Yak 3
Pe-8 bomber
Élite infantry as Guards or SMG
I’d like very much if russian infantry had caracteristic 3D model

British:
Achilles
Archer
(British now has not self propelled antitank units!)
Tetrarch tank
Halifax
Stirling
Lancaster
Whirlwind

Any other suggestion?
ubcbeer
Administrative Corporal - SdKfz 251/1
Administrative Corporal - SdKfz  251/1
Posts: 143
Joined: Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:10 am

Re: Missing units in Endsieg

Post by ubcbeer »

US
L-2 Grasshopper
XF5U-1
F7F Tigercat
M40 GMC
M43 HMC

Russia / US
p-39 airacobra
BI-1 or Early Mig Jet series
Ba64 scout car
IS-3
OT-34-85
GAZ-AAA

German:
Me P.1101
Ta 183
He P.1078
Ju EF.128
Panzerkampfwagen V Ausf F Panther VF or II
E-50 Standardpanzer
Panzerkampfwagen I Ausf C
Jagdpanzer E-25
Hetzer Flame
SdKfz 251/9 C or D
Grille 17 / 21
Zerstörer 45 AA Tank

I wrote some units that rolled out after WW2, but they are for What-if missions I think.
Andy2012
Order of Battle Moderator
Order of Battle Moderator
Posts: 1842
Joined: Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:55 pm

Re: Missing units in Endsieg

Post by Andy2012 »

Well, I guess those are a lot of units that could be present in a purely hypothetical, past-45 DLC. (Disclaimer: I have no idea if this is planned, discussed or anything. Just liked that stuff in Panzercorps.)
Admiral_Horthy
Sergeant First Class - Panzer IIIL
Sergeant First Class - Panzer IIIL
Posts: 366
Joined: Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:43 pm
Location: Budapest, Moscow

Re: Missing units in Endsieg

Post by Admiral_Horthy »

Thanks for the tips :mrgreen:

I don't think Achilles or Archer is yet possible unless there will be a code for backwards firing (or moving) vehicle.


On the others modded:

StuG IV - In progress
Pz II - Luchs thers isn't but late Pz II there is (Afrika corps version - Inspired by Terminator's never ending unit dates mod)
BA-20 - already in the game, stock..
T-70 - Done
KV-1S - Done
T-34/57 - Done (Texture wip)
ZiS-3 AT/AA - In 3A already
Soviet SMG, Elite inf (NKVD) - In 3A Already - unfortunately inf models are not possible(
US M4 GMC HMC - In progress (No texture yet)
BA-64 - on the list
OT-34-85 - Done
GAZ anti aircraft - three models done, one is already out in 3A (4x maxims) another on truck chassis with 25mm 72K, and the third WIP is ZiS-42 with 37mm 61K
Hetzer Flamm - In progress...
SdKfz 251/9 C - Done (almost) as transport
AA Tank - well I guess you'll be happy with Coelian (missing texture yet)
Admiral_Horthy
Sergeant First Class - Panzer IIIL
Sergeant First Class - Panzer IIIL
Posts: 366
Joined: Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:43 pm
Location: Budapest, Moscow

Re: Missing units in Endsieg

Post by Admiral_Horthy »

Andy2012 wrote: Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:52 am Well, I guess those are a lot of units that could be present in a purely hypothetical, past-45 DLC. (Disclaimer: I have no idea if this is planned, discussed or anything. Just liked that stuff in Panzercorps.)
What would be a really hard hitting sequel to all of this (besides a quick prelude called the Sealion 45 :mrgreen: ) would be an invasion USA vaguely based on Leo Rutman's "Clash of Eagles" book.
GUNDOBALDO08
Sergeant Major - Armoured Train
Sergeant Major - Armoured Train
Posts: 570
Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:07 pm

Re: Missing units in Endsieg

Post by GUNDOBALDO08 »

Admiral_Horthy wrote: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:38 am Thanks for the tips :mrgreen:

I don't think Achilles or Archer is yet possible unless there will be a code for backwards firing (or moving) vehicle.


On the others modded:

StuG IV - In progress
Pz II - Luchs thers isn't but late Pz II there is (Afrika corps version - Inspired by Terminator's never ending unit dates mod)
BA-20 - already in the game, stock..
T-70 - Done
KV-1S - Done
T-34/57 - Done (Texture wip)
ZiS-3 AT/AA - In 3A already
Soviet SMG, Elite inf (NKVD) - In 3A Already - unfortunately inf models are not possible(
US M4 GMC HMC - In progress (No texture yet)
BA-64 - on the list
OT-34-85 - Done
GAZ anti aircraft - three models done, one is already out in 3A (4x maxims) another on truck chassis with 25mm 72K, and the third WIP is ZiS-42 with 37mm 61K
Hetzer Flamm - In progress...
SdKfz 251/9 C - Done (almost) as transport
AA Tank - well I guess you'll be happy with Coelian (missing texture yet)
Let me well understand: you are creating a mod with new units??
GUNDOBALDO08
Sergeant Major - Armoured Train
Sergeant Major - Armoured Train
Posts: 570
Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:07 pm

Re: Missing units in Endsieg

Post by GUNDOBALDO08 »

By the way: Achilles has not backward fire, it is sostantially an Us M10 with 17P British gun... so you can create it...
GabeKnight
Lieutenant-General - Karl-Gerat 040
Lieutenant-General - Karl-Gerat 040
Posts: 3700
Joined: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:24 pm

Re: Missing units in Endsieg

Post by GabeKnight »

GUNDOBALDO08 wrote: Wed Nov 14, 2018 12:29 pm Let me well understand: you are creating a mod with new units??
Yes, it's working and he already released it here: Admiral's Alternate Arsenal (3A)
GUNDOBALDO08
Sergeant Major - Armoured Train
Sergeant Major - Armoured Train
Posts: 570
Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:07 pm

Re: Missing units in Endsieg

Post by GUNDOBALDO08 »

I noticed that British and Russians has not late strategical bomber...
Horst
Brigadier-General - 15 cm Nblwf 41
Brigadier-General - 15 cm Nblwf 41
Posts: 1927
Joined: Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:22 pm

Re: Missing units in Endsieg

Post by Horst »

There have to reasons left for people to spend money on the Allied and Soviet DLC, right?
GUNDOBALDO08
Sergeant Major - Armoured Train
Sergeant Major - Armoured Train
Posts: 570
Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:07 pm

Re: Missing units in Endsieg

Post by GUNDOBALDO08 »

I’m just give my wish list... ;)
Horst
Brigadier-General - 15 cm Nblwf 41
Brigadier-General - 15 cm Nblwf 41
Posts: 1927
Joined: Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:22 pm

Re: Missing units in Endsieg

Post by Horst »

GUNDOBALDO08 wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:24 pm I’m just give my wish list... ;)
It's fine. I also immediately missed the tiny Me 163 next to the He 162 jet. The Me 163 is more a defensive unit, so it made sense to leave it out of the rather offensive Endsieg campaign. Let's see what we get later.
terminator
Field Marshal - Elefant
Field Marshal - Elefant
Posts: 5862
Joined: Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:48 pm
Location: the land of freedom

Re: Missing units in Endsieg

Post by terminator »

GUNDOBALDO08 wrote: Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:29 pm I’m excited about release of Endsieg, but firstly I checked new units list.
So i noticed Devs missed this important (in my opinion) units, and I list them and hope they will put in future patches or dlc:

Germans:
...
Panzergrenadier
Panzergrenadier, shortened as PzGren (modern) or PzG (WWII), is a German term for motorised or mechanized infantry – that is, infantry transported in combat vehicles specialized for such tasks – as introduced during World War II.
Is it necessary to create a new unit, we already have all that it is necessary ?
GUNDOBALDO08
Sergeant Major - Armoured Train
Sergeant Major - Armoured Train
Posts: 570
Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:07 pm

Re: Missing units in Endsieg

Post by GUNDOBALDO08 »

terminator wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:42 pm
GUNDOBALDO08 wrote: Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:29 pm I’m excited about release of Endsieg, but firstly I checked new units list.
So i noticed Devs missed this important (in my opinion) units, and I list them and hope they will put in future patches or dlc:

Germans:
...
Panzergrenadier
Panzergrenadier, shortened as PzGren (modern) or PzG (WWII), is a German term for motorised or mechanized infantry – that is, infantry transported in combat vehicles specialized for such tasks – as introduced during World War II.
Is it necessary to create a new unit, we already have all that it is necessary ?
Mayer you’re right about PzGren term, but remember that units in OOB are at regimental or divisional level and historically germans create infanterie division, motorised division AND PzGrenadier division (specially SS PzGrenadier division) and that was combined force of mchanised infanterie, SpG, SP artillerie and little panzer support. So I think that PzGren infanterie unit with high hard attack and defense could well represent this division.
Admiral_Horthy
Sergeant First Class - Panzer IIIL
Sergeant First Class - Panzer IIIL
Posts: 366
Joined: Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:43 pm
Location: Budapest, Moscow

Re: Missing units in Endsieg

Post by Admiral_Horthy »

That's why I introduced heavy weapons halftrack transports for heavy inf. Mortar, inf-gun, AT-gun capable transports. any move that exceeds foot movement turns the inf into an SdKfz with firepower. If ... let's say - we allow a certain infantry to have heavy halftracks among it's transport choice - we can eventually rename that to PzGren... Or better have a weapon switch?
GUNDOBALDO08
Sergeant Major - Armoured Train
Sergeant Major - Armoured Train
Posts: 570
Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:07 pm

Re: Missing units in Endsieg

Post by GUNDOBALDO08 »

I think could be good if Devs introduce snipers for all big. Now they’re present only for Japan
Admiral_Horthy
Sergeant First Class - Panzer IIIL
Sergeant First Class - Panzer IIIL
Posts: 366
Joined: Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:43 pm
Location: Budapest, Moscow

Re: Missing units in Endsieg

Post by Admiral_Horthy »

GUNDOBALDO08 wrote: Sat Nov 17, 2018 4:31 pm I think could be good if Devs introduce snipers for all big. Now they’re present only for Japan
very easy to fix. I did that for GER, SOV, FIN. The others have good commandos anyway.
Just added SOV Razvedchiki yesterday. Recon class commando, bit weaker but have longer sight and flexible pathing.
GUNDOBALDO08
Sergeant Major - Armoured Train
Sergeant Major - Armoured Train
Posts: 570
Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:07 pm

Re: Missing units in Endsieg

Post by GUNDOBALDO08 »

Russians needs also haltrack infantry transport, usa landleese but also Soviet T20 komsomolets
Admiral_Horthy
Sergeant First Class - Panzer IIIL
Sergeant First Class - Panzer IIIL
Posts: 366
Joined: Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:43 pm
Location: Budapest, Moscow

Re: Missing units in Endsieg

Post by Admiral_Horthy »

Komsomolets is on the list, for small artillery towing.
Post Reply

Return to “Order of Battle Series”