Russian artillery crews

[deadtorius]

I seem to have some conflict in uniform information for Russian artillery crews. Osprey shows them with red turnbacks and black shoulder epaulettes. Another book of mine shows black turnbacks piped red and red epaulettes.
Any idea which I should do?
Thanks

[Blathergut]

Paint them blue and send them across the table!

[deadtorius]

Sacrilege!!! Green is the in color this year, blue is so old and tired. You should paint more Italians.

[MikeHorah]

Liliane and Fred Funcken show Line Foot Artillery of 1809 with red shoulder boards( no piping), black cuffs and collar with yellow AND red piping. They show Line Horse artillery of 1814 with red shoulder boards ( no piping) and with black collar and cuffs piped red. They say in the text " black facings" but you can't see the turnbacks to tell if they are black piped red or just red. Pre 1809 may have been different ( shako and horse arty headdress were) so not sure.

If you weren't confused before .....

[deadtorius]

Great Scott! Confusion reigns, fortunately I rarely have any clue anyway so it's situation normal here. Perhaps those artists for the books read the same material....

[KendallB]

Black turnbacks piped red.

Here's a link to the English translation of Viskovatov - your one stop shop for Russian uniform information.

http://marksrussianmilitaryhistory.info/#Viskovatov

[deadtorius]

Makes me glad I went that route in the first place, and red epaulettes.
Thanks for the link