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Double Rommel/Double Field Marshall/ Progressively Manstein

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New Grand Campaign Playthrough

Double Rommel/Double Field Marshall/ Progressively Manstein difficulty

Here are the parameters:
Field Marshall settings with tweaked settings
25% prestige earned
25% experience earned
(Throughout Campaign)
Here is where it gets progressively difficult
1939 enemy has 1 extra strength point
1940 enemy has 2 extra strength points
1941 enemy has 3 extra strength points
1942 enemy has 4 extra strength points
1943 enemy has 5 extra strength points
1944 enemy has 5 extra strength points and I have -1 strength points
1945 enemy has 5 extra strength points and I have -2 strength points.

Not sure if I will be able to do the progressive Manstein thingy as 2 scenarios in and hurting already. But this was the initial idea anyway

Poznan Starting with 400 Prestige:

Bought 2 7.5cm arty's and trucks.



Battle Report:
Day 1: Sunny
Seized airfield next to Nowy Tomysl.
Destroyed Polish plane and Cavalry.
Day 1 ai CA:
nothing


Day 2: Sunny
Seized Polish Check Point.
Destroyed 37mm AT.
Day 2 ai CA:
AT in Nowy Tomysl self emulated on my recon.


Day 3 and 4: Cloudy
Seized Nowy Tomysl, and airfield North of there, and took Rail Station.
Destroyed 40mm AA and Reg Inf.
Day 4 ai CA:
2 ambushes happened. 8)
Cavalry ran into Pz1A -4 them -1 me.
Wojcieck’s TKS was ambushed by my Regular inf -7 them.
But then a Cavalry hit recon in close terrain -1 them -5 me.



Day 5: Sunny
Pressuring Poznan.
Destroyed Cavalry and Wojcieck’s TKS.
Day 5 ai CA:
Nothing


Day 6: Sunny
Seized Airfield South of Kalisz and Ostrow Wielkopolski.
Destroyed 40mm AA.
Bought 15th Battalion of Gebirsjaeger.
Day 6 ai CA:
Bomber hit aux Pz2C -4 me.


Day 7: Sunny
Seized Kalisz.
Destroyed Polish Inf.
Day 7 ai CA:
Fighter hit my Stuka -3 me -2 them.


Day 8: Sunny
Seized Wrzesnia and pressuring Konin.
Destroyed Polish Bomber.
Day 8 ai CA:
AA hit Recon Rudel -2 me.
TKS tried hitting Reg Inf but they did it on a river -5 them.
Arty and AT tried hitting Pz1A -1 them.


Day 9: Sunny
Destroyed TKS, Polish Fighter, and 37mm AT.
Day 9 ai CA:
Arty hit Gebirsjaeger -2 me and AA hit aux Fighter Bomber -2 me.


Day 10: Sunny
Destroyed arty and seized Northern most airfield.
Day 10 ai CA:
AA hit aux Fighter Bomber -2 me.


Day 11: Sunny
Nothing both sides ai CA has nothing left.


Day 12: Sunny
Destroyed 40mm AA.


Day 13: Sunny
Seized Konin.
Destroyed Polish Mtn Inf.


Day 14: Sunny
Seized Poznan and airfield.
Destroyed Mtn Inf and 40mm AA.


Decisive Victory with 125 ending Prestige
This is insane on Manstein I got a Marginal Victory and still had 1195 so even though I am playing at 25% prestige, I am ending up garnering like 10% of what I normally would. I am not sure why? This is super hard and I was able to take everything except the central airfield and that defensive area.
Not a single unit has even close to 1 star of experience.
The greatest is one of my artillery units with 65, 1 of my Infantry has 37, 1 of the Bomber’s has 58, the Fighter 41, the recon 34, and 1 Pz1A 34.
Every point counts and damage was incurred. Rough stuff.
Next Danzig Corridor where I was awarded an SE Gebirsjaeger with a Truck, and 25 additional prestige for the Decisive Victory. I checked Marginal gets only 12.
150 prestige
I have done Danzig and will post that when I can and I will try and do no more than a single scenario a week so I can get a chance to hear thoughts and suggestions from you guys…Thanks in advance.

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Re: Double Rommel/Double Field Marshall/ Progressively Manst

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Danzig South Starting with 150 Prestige:

Bought 1 7.5cm arty w/out truck, as cannot afford and upgraded 1Pz1a to 1B.

2 prestige left…OH MY!!!
Brought everything including newly awarded SE Gebirsjaeger with truck.

Battle Report:
Day 1: Sunny
Seized Wiecbork, Wagrowiec, and Czarnkow.
Destroyed Polish Inf and Cavalry.
Day 1 ai CA:
nothing


Day 2: Cloudy
Seized Gniezno and Koronowo.
Destroyed 2 Polish inf’s and Cavalry.
Day 2 ai CA:
nothing


Day 3: Sunny
Seized airfield near Bydgoszcz and Walcz.
Destroyed 40mm AA.
Day 3 ai CA:
Cavalry hit SE Gebirsjaeger -4 me -3 them along with 2 other attacks with no effect.


Day 4: Sunny
Seized Inowroclaw and pressuring Bydgoszcz.
Force Surrendered TKS and 37mm AT, and destroyed 2 Polish Infantry and Cavalry.
Day 4 ai CA:
TKS hit Pz1A -4 me -3 them.


Day 5: Cloudy
Upgraded new 7.5cm arty to a 10.5cm arty with a truck.
Destroyed 37mm AT.
Day 5 ai CA:
3 attacks that hit my Pz1B -6 me -7 them.


Day 6: Sunny
Seized Bydgoszcz.
Destroyed 2 TKS’s, 105mm arty, and Polish Cavalry.
Day 6 ai CA:
7TP hit SE Gebirsjaeger -4 me -0 them.


Day 7: Sunny
Pressuring Wloclawek.
Destroyed 7TP and Cavalry.
Day 7 ai CA:
TKS hit Pz1A -1 me -3 them.


Day 8: Sunny
Pressuring Torun and Wabrzezno.
Destroyed Polish Inf and Force Surrendered 37mm AT.
Day 8 ai CA:
Arty nicked Regular inf; Cavalry self emulated on our other infantry -2 me; TKS nicked Pz1A.


Day 9: Sunny
Seized Rail Bridge, and Bridge, and airfield near Wloclawek, as well as pressuring Rypin.
Destroyed 75mm arty.
Day 9 ai CA:
nothing


Day 10: Sunny
Seized Wloclawek, Skepe, and Torun, and airfield; as well as pressuring Rypin.
Destroyed Polish inf and 37mm AT, also Force Surrendered TKS and Polish Inf.
Day 10 ai CA:
nothing


Day 11: Sunny
Seized Wabrzezno and Bridge.
Destroyed 75mm arty and Cavalry.
Day 11 ai CA:
2 TKS hit 2 Different Reg Inf -1 each 13 on one of them and -2 on the other one.

Day 12: Sunny
Seized Rypin.
Destroyed Mtn Inf.
Day 12 ai CA:
Various TKS attacks as they are coming out strong from the North and they seized Rail Bridge and Kronowo to prevent me from getting the Decisive Victory.

Day 13: Sunny
Retook Rail Bridge for the Decisive.
Destroyed 2 TKS’s.
Day 13 ai CA:
A few attacks but was able to hold.



Decisive Victory with 243 ending Prestige
3 arty’s with 1 star, barely.
Next Lodz with 280 prestige. NUTS! Not enough to buy a Fighter Bomber, I wanted one so bad.
So many options…please give me some advice on what to do with this limited prestige.
I have several thoughts on what I could spend it on, like 1 more 10.5cm arty with a truck, or just keep using the units I have, including Recon Rudel, and simply save up for desired Fighter Bomber for Piatek next, or should I save up for 88 in Piatek?
So many options my head is spinning.
Let me know yours.
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Re: Double Rommel/Double Field Marshall/ Progressively Manst

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I wouldn't buy any fighter bombers at all. I think for this run you might want to plan ahead the units that you want to have later in the game, and only go for that. How many fighter bombers are you using on Manstein in 44? -> Why buy them now if you'll put them in the dumps later. I'd go for either the arty, or another fighter. Upgrading to 1B also seems a waste of prestige, Because you'll be doing an out of tree update later anyways, so you might as well go to pz3/4 immediately when you have the points.
Doing 25% alone seems doable enough, even with 25% experience, the added enemy strength however will prove interesting indeed.
In 44/45 you'll be doing basically the same you are doing now, only with 10% or less of the prestige that you have now. Good luck. ;)
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Lodz Starting with 280 Prestige after replacements 231 (I wanted to not lose all of that exp on my Pz1B, but man is it costly) and after upgrades 155:

Upgraded 1 7.5cm arty to a 10.5cm and upgraded other 1Pz1a to 1B.

Brought everything.
The plan is to take minor force North to seize few weakly held cities with an artillery, an infantry and my airforce.
The rest of the group is going to help save auxiliary recon force and have them back away to overwhelm the enemy and press forward around the Fort Lodz.

Battle Report:
Day 1: Sunny
Seized Zelow and Kalisz.
Destroyed 2 Polish Inf’s.
Day 1 ai CA:
Mtn Inf hit aux Pz1B -1 me -3 them; Cavalry hit aux Pz38(t) in the woods -3 me -5 them; Cavalry hit aux Pz1a -5 me -6 them.


Day 2: Cloudy
Seized Sieradz.
Destroyed 2 Polish inf’s and 75mm arty. Force Surrendered Mtn Inf (I am going to try a delineate this on this playthrough as the prestige is so important and because I hope it helps others wrap their mind around how much of this can be done in their playthroughs)
Awarded Oleh Dir.
Day 2 ai CA:
nothing


Day 3: Sunny
Seized Lask and pressuring Turek.
Destroyed 3 Polish Inf units.
Day 3 ai CA:
Enemy destroyed auxiliary Pz38(t)


Day 4: Sunny
Seized Turek.
Force Surrendered Cavalry.
Day 4 ai CA:
Mtn Inf attacked SE Gebirsjaeger -2 me -5 them


Day 5: Sunny
Nothing but movement and attacks without any kills.
Day 5 ai CA:
37mm attacked Oleh Dir, but I forgot to write down the losses or damage done. :oops:


Day 6: Sunny
Seized Tomaszow Mazowiecki and nearby airfield as well as Potrkow Trynubalski, and even pressuring Leczyce.
Destroyed 2 Polish Inf’s and Force Surrendered 3 37mm AT’s including Kolbert Brigade. 8)
Day 6 ai CA:
nothing


Day 7: Cloudy
Seized Leczyce.
Destroyed Polish Inf.
Bought 2 extra rep for Oleh Dir for 6 prestige.
Day 7 ai CA:
TKS and arty hit Pz1B -4 me -2 them, and another Sieradz was seized by TKS I was had forgotten about. (I had seen it the previous round and got super freaked out so brought a small force to try and take it out)


Day 8: Sunny
Seized Sieradz. Pressuring Konin and Brzeziny.
Destroyed TKS.
Day 8 ai CA:
Nothing


Day 9: Cloudy
Seized Konin and Brzeziny, as well as part of Lodz and even an airfield near Lowicz.
Destroyed Mtn Troop and 75mm arty.
Day 9 ai CA:
nothing


Day 10: Sunny
Pressuring Lowicz.
Destroyed 75mm arty and 105mm arty , also Force Surrendered 40mm Bofors.
Day 10 ai CA:
2 polish inf attacks. 1 against my aux recon -1 each and other against aux Pz1A -1 them.


Day 11: Sunny
Pressuring Glowno, Piatek and all of Lodz.
Force Surrendered Polish Inf.
Day 11 ai CA:
Polish inf hit recon -4 them and 37mm AT hit Reg Inf -2 me -3 them.


Day 12: Sunny
Seized Part of Lodz.
Destroyed Polish Inf.
Day 12 ai CA:
Mtn Inf hit aux Pz1A -1 me.

Day 13: Sunny
Destroyed Mtn Inf and seized Lodz.
Force Surrendered TKS and 37mm AT and seized Glowno.
Destroyed Mtn Inf and seized Lowicz.
Destroyed Polish inf seized Piatek.


Decisive Victory with 479 ending Prestige
Fighter and both Bomber’s along with all artillery have 1 star of experience. (I was thinking also have 1 inf and 1 tank that have 1 star, but I didn’t write it down and I forgot to check) :oops:
Next Piatek with 529 prestige.
Ok, so enough to buy that Fighter I was wanting to help rule the skies.
The plan is to build up enough prestige in Piatek to be able to buy an 88 and another 3.7cm pax for Kampinoska Forest. I think I will keep 2 arty’s at 75mm, not sure how long but for now it is working.
I hope to try Piatek this weekend, if you have any thoughts or words of advice please share.
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Piatek Starting with 529 Prestige:


Bought Fighter 119 and after replacements to try and retain at least some experience 50 prestige left and earning 6 prestige per round.
At Lowicz: 4th Reg Inf w Truck and 1 Star Pz1B.
At Glowno: 15th Gebirsjaeger, Pz1B, Recon, and 7.5cm arty.
At Piatek: Oleh Dir
At Ozorkow: 18th SE Gebirsjaeger.
At Osse: 2 10.5cm arty’s, 1 7.5 cm arty, 12th Gebirsjaeger, 9th Regular Infantry, and 3.7cm Pak.



Battle Report:
Day 1: Sunny
Day 1 ai CA:
Aux recon destroyed and our response was nothing.


Day 2: ai CA
Enemy seized Piatek -1 me -7 them.
Bzura Bridge South of Bakow Gorny seized -1 me -9 them.
Day 2 Sunny:
Seized Bakow Gorny itself and the Bzura Bridge to the South of it as well as Piatek.
Destroyed Polish Inf and TKS.


Day 3: ai CA
General Boltuc seized Bzura Bridge to the West of Piatek and hit 12th Gebirsjaeger guarded with an artillery -6 them -0 me.
Polish Inf seized Ozorkow and attacked SE Gebirsjaeger guarded by 2 artillery’s -3 them.
TKS seized Bzura Bridge East of Piatek -6 them -0 me.
(Good Round)
Day 3 Sunny:
Seized Ozorkow and Bzura Bridge East of Piatek.
Destroyed TKS and General Boltuc


Day 4: ai CA
TKS seized Piatek -4 them -1 me and Polish Infantry was ambushed by my 1 Star Pz1B -2 them -1 me.
Day 4 Sunny:
Seized Piatek.
Destroyed Polish Cavalry, TKS, and 2 Polish Inf’s.


Day 5: ai CA
All attacks were ineffective against me 0 damage except 1 against Far Western Strongpoint by Cavalry -3 me -4 them.
Day 5 Sunny:
Seized both Northern Bzura Bridges and Ozorkow.
Destroyed 4 Polish Inf’s.


Day 6: ai CA
Enemy seized Piatek -8 them.
Fighter hit aux AT -3 me.
Day 6 Sunny:
Seized back Piatek.
Destroyed PZL P.11c, Cavalry, and Polish Inf.


Day 7: ai CA
Enemy destroyed Western most Strongpoint and enemy seized Ozorkow -1 me -2 them.
Day 7 Sunny:
Destroyed 7TP, Polish Inf, and 75mm arty.
10th Ju-87B awarded Iron Cross 2nd Class.


Day 8: ai CA
2 attacks on my 12th Gebirsjaeger leaving them with just 1 Str left. :shock: :shock: :shock: :oops: :oops: :oops: :cry: :cry: :cry:
Renault hit SE Gebirsjaeger guarded by 2 arty’s -2 me -3 them.
(Rough Round)
Day 8 Sunny:
Seized Ozorkow.
Destroyed Renault.


Day 9: ai CA
Enemy seized Ozorkow and nearby Bridge and Piatek and Bridge to the West of Piatek. Only attack that did damage was -2 against my Pz1B.
Day 9 Sunny:
Seized Ozorkow and Leczyca as well as Bzura Bridge to the West of Piatek.
Destroyed Polish Inf, 7TP, and 2 TKS’s.


Day 10: ai CA
Bzura Brisge South of Bakow Gorny seized -3 me -5 them.
Day 10 Sunny:
Seized Daszyna.
Destroyed Cavalry.


Day 11: ai CA
Ebnemy seized Piatek -2 them
Day 11 Sunny:
Seized Strzegocin, Piatek, and Bzura Bridge East of Piatek.
Destroyed General Wlad and Mtn Inf.


Day 12: ai CA
Enemy destroyed last Strongpoint and AA nicked Ju-87B.
Day 12 Sunny:
Seized Krosniewice and airfield near Daszyna.
Destroyed Polish Inf, General Stanislaw, and backed out of Lowicz and nearby Bzura Bridge to draw another trap.


Day 13: ai CA
Enemy seized Lowicz and nearby Bzura Bridge where they lost their 7TP and TKS left with just 3 str left.
They also seized Bakow Gorny.
Day 13 Sunny:
Seized Lowicz and nearby Bzura Bridge.
Destroyed Mtn. Inf, TKS, and Polish Inf.


Day 14: ai CA
Enemy destroyed aux AT.
Day 14 Sunny:
Nothing


Day 15: ai CA
nothing
Day 15 Sunny:
Seized Bakow Gorny and the Bzura Bridge South of it.
Destroyed PZL P.11c and Renault R35.


Day 16: ai CA
Enemy seized Strzegocin and Bzura Brisge East of Piatek, which meant their Polish Inf hit my 1 star Pz1B -1 me -2 them.
Day 16 Sunny:
Destroyed 7TP.


Day 17: ai CA
General Kutrzeba seized Piatek and attacked Oleh Dir guarded by 2 artillery -2 me -8 them and they seized Bzura Bridge South of Bakow Gorny -3 them.
Day 17 Rainy:
Seized Bzura Bridge South of Bakow Gorny.
Destroyed Polish Inf.


Day 18: ai CA
7TP seized Bridge West of Piatek. Forgot to write down the carnage. :oops:
Polish inf hit Pz1B -4 me -2 them, and Polish Inf was ambushed -3 them.
Day 18 Sunny:
Seized Bzura Bridge West of Piatek.
Destroyed 7TP.


Day 19: ai CA
General Kutrzeba seized Bzura Bridge East of Piatek -1 recon -7 them.
Day 19 Sunny:
Seized Bzura Bridge West of Piatek.
Destroyed General Kutrzeba.


Day 20: ai CA
Last Attacks were all defended except Polish inf who nicked 1 more off our SE Gebirsjaeger.
Day 20 Sunny:
Seized all of the Objectives.
Destroyed Cavalry, 7TP, TKS, Renault R35, and Polish Inf.


Decisive Victory with 417 ending Prestige
This weekend I will give Kampinoska Forest a chance as well as Minsk 44 on my Manstein playthrough. (Hopefully)
I was awarded an SE Infantry and I am starting with 442 prestige.
The plan is to sell SE infantry and truck and use prestige to buy 88 and truck as well as keep all units with 1 star of experience to maintain that experience.
This is so different from how I have played this 39 Campaign ever, used to say always give regular replacements in early war, but now that I am playing at Double Field Marshall Double Rommel, I need that experience when I get it.
My hope is to take my time and use my 88 and 3.7cm pak to get most train kills and hopefully much needed experience.
By the end of Kampinoska hoping that I have enough to buy 1 or 2 Strat Bombers, or 1 Strat and 1 new artillery. (Not sure which and would love to hear your thoughts)

I normally have 8 artillery’s at this point, but now only have 4.
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Re: Double Rommel/Double Field Marshall/ Progressively Manst

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I am not sure how to value experience versus prestige with both of them being so limited. I plan to wait with my second strategic bombers for the Ju88. That saves some money. The trains won't give much exp anayways, so I am not convinced of the usage of AT and AA in the forest :)
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Kampinoska Forest Starting with 442 Prestige sold SE Inf w/truck 619 after replacements and new purchase of 88 with a truck 106.


The plan is to try and use 8.8 and 3.7Pak to kill troop trains as much as possible.
In Janow brought: 7.5cm arty.
Around Grzybow: Reg Inf, 1 star 12th Gebirsjaeger, 7.5cm arty.
Around Osiek: 1 Star Pz1B, 15th Gebirsjaeger, 8.8 Flak.
Around Boczhi: 3.7cm Pak, 10.5cm arty, and Reg Inf with a truck.
Around Lowicz: Pz1B, 10.5cm arty, SE Gebirsjaeger, Recon.
In the air: 2 Fighters and 1 Tac Bomber.



Battle Report:
Day 1: Sunny
Seized Kuznocin and pressuring Guzow.
Day 1 ai CA:
nothing


Day 2: Sunny
Seized Wiska.
Destroyed TKS and Troop Train with 8.8 for 1 exp. :roll:
Day 2 ai CA:
TKS hit aux Cavalry -3 me -2 them.
Fighter Trap worked but Fighter and Infantry still hit 3.7cm Pak -4 me -5 them.


Day 3: Sunny
Seized all of Wyszogrod, Guzow, and Sochaczew as well as airfield near Grodzisk Mazowiecki.
Destroyed PZL P.11c, 2 Polish Inf’s, 40mm AA and force surrendered Troop Train.
Day 3 ai CA:
Enemy seized airfield next to Grodzisk Mazowiecki and Inf hit 3.7cm Pak -1 me -4 them.


Day 4: Rainy
Seized Blonie.
Destroyed Polish Inf.
Day 4 ai CA:
TKS ambushed -6 them -1 against aux Cavalry.
2 AT’s hit 4th Reg Inf guarded by arty -2 me -6 them.
Inf tried to hit recon -4 them.


Day 5: Sunny
Seized Kobylniki and Grodzisk Mazowiecki and airfield.
Destroyed 2 Polish Inf’s and 37mm AT and Force Surrendered Troop Train.
7th Bf-109E awarded +1 Def Hero. :?
Day 5 ai CA:
AT Tried hitting ar ty guarded by another arty -1 them.


Day 6: Sunny
Destroyed 37mm AT.
Day 6 ai CA:
2 attacks hit SE Gebirsjaeger -5 me -3 them.
Inf hit aux Cavalry -3 each.


Day 7: Sunny
Destroyed Polish Inf.
Day 7 ai CA:
nothing


Day 8: Sunny
Destroyed TKS, 2 Troop Train’s, 40mm AA, and Force Surrendered Troop Train.
10th Ju87B awarded +3 Att hero.
Day 8 ai CA:
Nothing


Day 9: Sunny
Seized Kampinos.
Destroyed Mtn Troop and 37mm AT.
Day 9 ai CA:
TKS hit 10.5cm arty -3 me.
TKS hit Pz1B -2 them -1 me.


Day 10: Sunny
Destroyed 75mm arty, TKS, and Cavalry.
Day 10 ai CA:
2 attacks destroyed auxiliary Cavalry.
Inf tried hitting Pz1B guarded by arty -1 them.

Day 11: Sunny
Destroyed Polish Inf, Mtn Inf, and 2 TKS’s.
Force Surrendered Troop Train.
12th Gebirsjaeger and 1st Recon awarded Iron Cross 2nd Class.
Day 11 ai CA:
Polish inf attacked aux Cavalry guarded by arty -4 them -1 me.


Day 12: Sunny
Seized Gorki.
Destroyed Polish Inf and Cavalry.
Force Surrendered 2 Troop Trains.
9th Regular Inf awarded Iron Cross 2nd Class.
Day 12 ai CA:
AA hit Ju-87B -3 me and Cavalry hit 3.7cm Pak guarded by arty -2 me -3 them.


Day 13: Sunny
Destroyed 7TP, 40mm AA, and Troop Train.
Day 13 ai CA:
Inf destroyed aux Cavalry and Cavalry hit Reg inf -4 each.


Day 14: Sunny
Destroyed Cavalry, Polish Inf, and Troop Train, also Force Surrendered a Troop train which is now enough to get Decisive Victory.
15th Gebirsjaeger awarded Iron Cross 2nd Class.
Day 14 ai CA:
Fort Modlin hit Pz1B -2 me.
Polish inf tried hitting inf guarded by artillery -3 them.


Day 15: Sunny
Seized Pruszkow.
Destroyed Polish Inf and force surrendered 37mm AT.
Day 15 ai CA:
Nothing


Day 16: Sunny
Seized last Victory Objective.
Destroyed 105mm arty and Troop Train.





Decisive Victory with 359 ending Prestige
Next Modlin with 409 prestige.
I looked at this, this morning and realize selling Fighter and buying all desired items would make it impossible to get replacement Fighter for Warsaw, so despite my wishes, I am going to get the following.
Sell the Fighter. Use mostly regular replacements except for 3.7cm Pak which is extremely close to a star.
Buy a Henkel.
Upgrade both 7.5 arty’s to 10.5cm arty’s.
This is it, and will go for the Marginal Victory because watching the people who went for the Decisive on the various playthroughs I have watched is just too much for me to try at this level. I think it could be done, but at what cost. So, my goal is to get almost all units to a full star, by slowly using units that do not have a star for attacks after the artillery has fully suppressed as no need to take any damage at all on this map, this way I only build up experience and kills.

Hoping for more good 1st heroes, and may replay if awarded lousy first heroes, not replay battles, but the entire scenario. I guess it will depend on the spread of heroes if any are awarded.

I think this weekend I will have time to do Modlin and Warsaw.
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Modlin Super Hard 2nd Try…redid scenario as I took more damage than I intended to sustain as going for Marginal Victory to minimize my losses and increase my kills


The plan is to get Marginal Victory and most units at 1 Star of Experience and at least 410 in prestige for 2nd Fighter needed in Warsaw.

Started with 409 prestige and then sold +1 Def Fighter 819, after replacements 704, Bought Henkel 404 prestige, upgraded 2 7.5cm with 1 overstrength 248.

Brought everything except Recon Rudel.



Battle Report:
Day 1: Sunny
Pressuring Mlawa.
Destroyed 75mm arty.
Day 1 -3 ai CA:
nothing


Day 2: Sunny
Seized Mlawa and pressuring Przasnysz.
Destroyed TKS and Mtn Inf.


Day 3: Sunny
Seized Przasnysz and pressuring Rociaz and Ostroleka.
Destroyed Polish Inf.


Day 4: Sunny
Seized Raciaz and Ostrolevka as well as its airfield, even pressuring Chiechanow.
Force Surrendered 105mm arty, 37mm AT, and Polish Inf.
Destroyed Polish Inf.
Day 4 ai CA:
Polish Inf hit 4th Regular Inf -2 me -7them and I was awarded an Iron Cross 2nd Class.


Day 5: Sunny
Seized Chiechanow and airfield.
Destroyed 40mm AA and Mtn Inf.
Day 5 ai CA:
nothing


Day 6: Cloudy
Seized Pultusk.
Destroyed 37mm AT.
Day 6 ai CA:
TKS hit SE Gebirsjaeger guarded by 2 arty’s -0 me -3 them and as such I was awarded with an Iron Cross 2nd class.


Day 7: Cloudy
Seized Wyszkow and pressuring Plonsk and Nasielsk.
Destroyed 2 Polish Inf’s and TKS.
Day 7-10 ai CA:
nothing


Day 8: Sunny
Seized Nasielsk.


Day 9: Sunny
Seized Nowe Miszewo.


Day 10: Sunny
Seized Plonsk.
Destroyed TKS and Polish Inf.


Day 11: Sunny
Destroyed Polish Inf and 37mm AT.
Day 11 ai CA:
Renault R-35 hit SE Gebirsjaeger guarded by arty -2 each.


Day 12: Sunny
Seized Radzymin.
Destroyed 2 Strongpoints and Cavalry.
Day 12 -16 ai CA:
nothing


Day 13: Sunny
Destroyed Renault R-35 and Cavalry.


Day 14: Sunny
nothing


Day 15: Sunny
Seized Southern Airfield.
Destroyed 40mm AA and 37mm AT.

Day 16: Sunny
Seized Fort Beniamihow.
Destroyed 37mm AT and Mtn Inf.





Marginal Victory with 475 ending Prestige
Next Warsaw South with 500 prestige. (I was also awarded another SE Inf that I will be selling)
This was the keeper…I also found time this weekend to bust through Warsaw South.
I have most of my units at 1 star, with just a few exceptions.
I will try and type up Warsaw as well.
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Warsaw South Super Hard


The plan is to get Decisive Victory so I can fight Spoils.

Started with 500 prestige and then sold SE Inf with Transport 677, after replacements 671, Bought Bf-109E and 10.5cm arty with truck 19 prestige left.

Around Kampinos: 1st Recon, 15th Gebirsjaeger, and 10.5cm arty.
Around Grodusk Mazowiecki: Se Gebirsjaeger, another Gebirsjaeger, 2 Regular Inf, and 10.5cm arty.
Around Marianka: Pz1B. Pz38(t)M Albert Kerscher, 8.8cm AA, Oleh Dir, and 2 10.5cm arty.
In the air: 2 Fighter’s and +3 Att Tac Bomber as well as a Henkel.


Battle Report:
Day 1: Sunny
Seized Blonie and Piaseczno
Destroyed 37mm arty.
Day 1 ai CA:
nothing


Day 2: Sunny
Seized Gora Kalwaria, Otwock, and Sulejowek.
Destroyed 40mm AA and PZL P.11c.
Day 2 ai CA:
Fighter hit +3 Att Ju-87B -3 them -2 me and TKS tried hitting Inf guarded by 2 arty’s -2 them.

Day 3: Cloudy
Seized Miase and Southern Warsaw airfield.
Destroyed 1st Polish Sentry, PZL P.11c.
Force Surrendered TKS.
Day 3 ai CA:
Fighter hit +3 Att Ju-87B -1 each.

Day 4: Sunny
Seized airfield near Minsk Mazowiecki.
Destroyed PZL P.11c and Polish Inf.
Awarded aux 10.5cm arty.
Day 4 ai CA:
Bomber hit aux Pz1B -5 me and TKS hit SE Gebirsjaeger guarded by arty -6 the, -1 raise


Day 5: Sunny
Seized Gadka and Stanislawow as well as pressuring Minsk Mazowiecki.
Destroyed PZL P.11c , 2nd and 4th Polish Sentry and TKS.
Day 5 ai CA:
nothing


Day 6: Sunny
Seized Minsk Mazowiecki and South West Warsaw City.
Destroyed 3rd Polish Sentry, Polish Inf, and 75mm arty.
Day 6 ai CA:
Arty hit 4th Regular Inf -1 me and awarded 1 auxiliary arty and 1 core arty.


Day 7: Cloudy
Destroyed Strongpoint.
Awarded last aux arty.
Day 7 ai CA:
Arty nicked my Regular Inf.


Day 8: Sunny
Seized Secondary Western Warsaw City.
Destroyed 7TP and Polish Inf.
Day 8 ai CA:
2 artys tried to hit but unsuccessful Mtn Inf tried to hit Reg Inf guarded by 2 arty’s -9 them -0 me.


Day 9: Cloudy
Seized Easternmost airfield.
Destroyed Mtn Inf.
Oleh Dir awarded Iron Cross 2nd Class.
Day 9 ai CA:
Arty hit my arty -2 me.


Day 10: Cloudy
Seized part of South East Warsaw.
Destroyed Strongpoint and Polish Inf.
Day 10 ai CA:
Aux arty nicked and aux recon reduced to 1 Str by 2 attacks.


Day 11: Sunny
Seized Downtown Warsaw and Southeast Warsaw.
Destroyed Polish Inf, 10.5cm arty and 2 Cavalry’s.
14th 10.5cm arty awarded Iron Cross 2nd Class.
Day 11 ai CA:
2 AA’s hit aux air units -2 each plane.


Day 12: Cloudy
Seized Rail Station and Central Warsaw.
Destroyed 7TP and Polish Inf.
Day 12 ai CA:
nothing


Day 13: Sunny
Seized North Eastern part of Warsaw.
Force Surrendered 75mm arty.
Day 13 ai CA: TKS hit Regular inf -2 each


Day 14: Sunny
Destroyed TKS, 2 40mm AA’s, Polish Inf, and 75mm arty.
Day 14 ai CA:
nothing


Day 15: Sunny
Seized Warsaw City Center.
Destroyed Mtn. Inf, 40mm AA, and Cavalry.
Day 15 ai CA:
Polish inf hit aux Pz1A -3 each.


Day 16: Sunny
Destroyed 75mm arty.
Force Surrendered Cavalry, 40mm AA, and 105mm arty.
Day 16 ai CA:
TKS hit SE Gebirsjaeger -1 me -3 them.


Day 17: Sunny
Seized Main North Eastern Warsaw Objective.
Destroyed Polish Inf and TKS.
Force Surrendered 105mm arty.
Day 17 ai CA:
Aux inf destroyed aux Pz1a hit by inf -3 me -2 them.


Day 18: Sunny
Destroyed 105mm arty.
Force Surrendered 2 Polish Inf’s.
Day 18 ai CA:
Strongpoint attacks aux inf guarded by arty -5 them -2 me and Inf attacked aux Pz1a guarded by arty -4 them -0 me.


Day 19: Sunny
Seized Northwestern most airfield.
Destroyed 2 Polish Inf’s.
Force Surrendered Mtn Inf.
Day 19 ai CA:
Aux Pz1B destroyed.


Day 20: Sunny
Seized last airfield and all of North Western Warsaw.
Destroyed 40mm AA and Strongpoint.
Force Surrendered 2 Polish Inf’s.
13th 10.5cm arty awarded Iron Cross 2nd Class.


Decisive Victory with 499 ending Prestige
Next Spoils of War with 674 prestige. Was able to destroy everything except 1 Strongpoint and 1 Infantry and I was able to seize everything, so very lucrative scenario.
My thinking is to buy 3 new units for Spoils, 1 recon, 1 new arty, 1 new 3.7cm Pak.
Spoils can be a little tricky and I probably should not be bringing new units in on this map, but I want to build up more forces for the long haul, and I am really hoping to utilize recons differently than I have in the past so I can create traps and surround, suppress, surrender more readily. My greatest concern is my use of 3.7cm Pak’s they are very, very fragile, but also very cheap, so hopefully I can have 2 of them at least at 1 star. Experienced Anti-tanks are so important in later war years.

Let me know your thoughts as will not be playing Spoils until this weekend.
(I am currently attempting Bastogne Assault Blind on Guderian and it is not going well. I am busy working myself up to Bastogne itself but just had their counter attack come and seize a couple of my unoccupied Main Objectives, so I believe I will need to fight out once I have routed out the Defenders of Bastogne.)
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the man who never sleeps cause he is mongering some new war in Europe all the Time has done it again and started a new crusade through WW 2 with some individual difficulty setting.

So here we go, same procedure as every war 3 file/replays limit per post

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do not want to seperate the 2 Modlin Replays into different Posts so just 2 Replays here

see below
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Thanks Hurly you have been a Godsend, and a true hero in my book. Thanks again for posting



Spoils of War Super Hard


The plan is to get Decisive Victory so I can fight Spoils.

Started with 674 prestige, after replacements 639, Bought Sturmpanzer 312 prestige left.
(Waiting until Norway to get better recon and AT choices)

Brought 2 Regular Inf, 6 arty’s including the Polish arty and Sturmpanzer, recon, Albert Kerscher, Pz1B, 3.7cm Pak, 88, SE Gebirsjaeger, 2 Fighter’s, +3 Att Ju-87B, and Henkel.


Battle Report:
Day 1: Sunny
Seized Wyszkow, Minsk Mazowiecki, and Pilawa.
Day 1 ai CA:
Reg Inf and arty hit aux Panzerjaeger -3 each.


Day 2: Sunny
Seized Zelechow and nearby airfield.
Destroyed 76.2mm arty and Regular Inf.
Awarded Helmut Lent.
Day 2 ai CA:
Ambushed their BA-10 -7 them -1 me; I-16 hit +3 Att JU-87B -1 me; T-26S hit aux Cavalry -4 me.

Day 3: Sunny
Destroyed I-16 and BA-10.
Force Surrendered Regular Inf, Mtn Inf, and BA-10.
24th Bf-109e awarded Iron Cross 2nd Class.
Day 3 ai CA:
Regular Infantry and Bomber destroyed aux Panzerjaeger; AA hit green Fighter -3 me; BA-10 hit Sturmpanzer -2 me; Reg Inf hit aux Panzerjaeger -3 me -6 them.

Day 4: Cloudy
Seized Wegrow and Siedlce along with airfield.
Destroyed 122mm arty, Mtn Inf, Pe-2, and T-26S.
Force Surrendered Regular Inf.
Day 4 ai CA:
I-16 hit Green Fighter -2 me -3 them; and Engineer’s hit recon -1 me -4 them; and enemy destroyed auxiliary Cavalry.


Day 5: Sunny
Destroyed Regular Inf, I-16, Engineer’s, and Cavalry.
Day 5 ai CA:
Reg inf hit SE Gebirsjaeger -2 me -4 them and BA-10 hit arty guarded by another arty -1 each.


Day 6: Sunny
Destroyed BA-10, Cavalry, Regular Inf, 76.2mm arty in truck, and 37mm AA.
Day 6 ai CA:
T-26S hit Cavalry -3 me -1 them.


Day 7: Sunny
Seized Radzyn Podlaski and airfield.
Destroyed Regular Inf and T-26S.
Day 7 ai CA:
Enemy destroyed aux Cavalry and Regular Inf hit aux Panzerjaeger -2 me.


Day 8: Sunny
Seized Miedzyrzec Podlaski.
Destroyed Reg Inf and T-26S.
Force Surrendered Engineer’s.
Day 8 ai CA:
BT-5 hit my SE Gebirsjaeger in hills -2 them -3 me and BT-5 hit Pz1a -6 them -1 me.


Day 9: Sunny
Seized Siemiatycze and Kleszczele and Biala Podlaski.
Destroyed 2 BT-5’s.
Day 9 ai CA:
2nd Wave moving up.


Day 10: Sunny
Setting up for 2nd wave.
Day 10 ai CA:
BT-7 ambushed by Regular Inf -3 them and Cavalry tried hitting 88 guarded by 2 unseen arty’s -6 them. 8)


Day 11: Sunny
Destroyed BT-5, Cavalry, BT-7, 76.2mm arty in a truck.
Bought 5 reg reps for aux Panzerjaeger.
Day 11 ai CA:
BA-10 retook Ciechanowiec hit by 3.7cm Pak -3 them.


Day 12: Sunny
Seized Ciechanowiec.
Destroyed BA-10, T-26S, and 76.2mm arty.
Day 12 ai CA:
Lieutenant Mikhailovich tried hitting 9th Regular Inf in hills and thankfully I received a Rugged Defense that saved my butt. -4 them (Key to the ease of this battle)


Day 13: Sunny
Destroyed BT-7.
Day 13 ai CA:
Fighter hit aux Strat Bomber -2 me.


Day 14: Cloudy
Seized airfield North of Brest
Destroyed I-16 and Cavalry.
13th 10.5 cm arty awarded +1 Att 1st hero.
6th 10.5cm arty awarded Iron Cross 2nd Class.
Day 14 ai CA:
Lieutenant Mikhailovich nicked arty and BT-7 and Reg Inf hit aux mobile AA -7 me -2 them.


Day 15: Sunny
Seized last airfield and pressuring Brest.
Destroyed BT-7 and Reg Inf.
3rd 8.8 cm FLAK awarded Iron Cross 2nd Class.
Day 15 ai CA:
AA nicked aux Strat Bomber.


Day 16: Rainy
Destroyed Cavalry and Regular Inf.
Day 16 ai CA:
Nothing left for remainder of the battle


Day 17: Sunny
Destroyed Lieutenant Mikhailovich and Conscript.
Force Surrendered 40mm AA.


Day 18: Sunny
nothin
Day 19: Cloudy
Force Surrendered Reg Inf.
Day 20: Sunny
Moved away from Brest for last round
Day 21: Cloudy
5th 3.7cm Pak awarded Iron Cross 2nd Class and Force surrendered a bunch of units as did a full trap. 8)


Decisive Victory with 622 ending Prestige
Next Oslo with 809 prestige, and I was also awarded an SE Gebirsjaeger in Half Track that I will be selling in order to get SE Tanks.
Spoils was not as hard as I was expecting, my green Fighter was chewed up pretty bad, but so what.
The biggest thing was to have arty backing up your units and that Rugged Defense against that KV-2.

Here are my thoughts for all of Norway.
Use almost entirely new units to get as many up to at least 1 star of experience before I step up difficulty level in France.
This means over the next few scenarios to purchase at least 3 new Gebirsjaeger, 1 new Panzerjaeger, 1 new recon, 1 new Sturmpanzer 1, 1 new Henkel, and probably 1 more new 10.5cm arty and maybe a new Fighter?

Very limited army build up as compared to other playthroughs but at this point my thoughts are as many units as possible to get up to 1 star by end of 39, 2 stars and 1 hero by the end of 40, 3 stars and 1 or 2 heroes by the end of 41. After that I will reevaluate.
(I am still in Bastogne Assault Blind on Guderian. I fully expect to now lose this match as the forces arrayed against me are way too many and coming on way to strong. I spread out my forces wrong and it has not gone well for me. It is never fun to lose, but will help increase the desire to replay this Campaign.)

Does anyone know if you still get the Steam Achievement if you take the losing path in 45 West?
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Oslo Super Hard


The plan is to proceed extremely slow to minimize damage and maximize experience/kills on new units.

Started with 809 prestige, sold SE Gebirsjaeger and half track, 1036 after replacements 1024.
Bought Sturmpanzer, 8 Rad recon, Panzerjaeger, and 2 new Gebirsjaeger.
(88 prestige left, I do not need prestige now, I need to build units for the experience needed in later campaign.)

On left near Kragero placed: Polish arty; Sturmpanzer; 8 Rad; and Panzerjaeger.
In water on left placed 2 new Gebirsjaeger’s.
In air placed: Green Fighter; Helmut Lent; Henkel; and Ju-87B.
In water south of Fredrikstad: 2 10.5cm arty’s; Sturmpanzer; 3.7cm Pak; 8.8cm Flak; Pz1B; SE Gabirsjaeger; 15th Gebirsjaeger.


Battle Report:
Day 1: Sunny
Seized Porsgrunn and then backed out 8 Rad.
Destroyed 40mm AA.
Day 1 ai CA:
Fighter Trap worked but still hit aux Fallschimjaeger for -2 me.
A regular inf hit PT Boat for -2 me; Destroyer has 2 Str left; Blucher nicked by Fort.


Day 2: Cloudy
Seized Fredrikstad.
Destroyed Gloucester Gladiator.
Day 2 ai CA:
Destroyer destroyed; Blucher nicked; PT Boat nicked; and aux Fallschimjaeger hit by reg inf -3 each.


Day 3: Cloudy
Seized Larvik with recon and backed out for a trap.
Destroyed Norway Inf and 75mm arty.
11th Panzer 1B awarded Iron Cross 2nd Class.
Bought 3 Reg reps for aux Fallschimjaeger.
Day 3 ai CA:
Enemy seized Larvik no damage. :(
Aux Fallschimjaeger reduced to 1 str and Blucher nicked.


Day 4: Sunny
Seized airfield next to Askim and retook Larvik.
Destroyed 3 Norwegian Inf and Gun Emplacement.
Day 4 ai CA:
Fort hit SE Gebirsjaeger -3 me and inf came out of Moss and stopped cold by arty’s.


Day 5: Sunny
Seized Moss, Tansberg, and Askim.
Destroyed 2 Norwegian Inf’s and Gun Emplacement.
Day 5 ai CA:
Aux Fallschimjaeger in Askim destroyed.


Day 6: Cloudy
Seized Horten.
Destroyed Strongpoint.
Day 6 ai CA:
Fort nicked 10.5cm arty.


Day 7: Sunny
Seized Drammen and Notodden.
Destroyed last Gun Emplacement and 2 Norwegian Inf.
Day 7 ai CA:
Nothing for the remainder of the battle. :D


Day 8: Sunny
Seized Oscrasborg and airfield near Notodden.
Destroyed Strongpoint and 40mm AA.


Day 9 and 10: Cloudy
Seized Sandivka and part of Oslo.
Destroyed Norwegian Inf and 75mm arty.




Day 11: Rainy
Seized Oslo
Destroyed 40mm AA.
Force Surrendered Mtn Unit.


Day 12: Cloudy
Seized Lillestrom.
Destroyed Norwegian Inf.


Day 13: Rainy
Seized Honefoss
Destroyed Norwegian Inf.


Day 14: Sunny
Seized Jessheim
Destroyed Norwegian Inf.



Decisive Victory with 378 ending Prestige
Next Lillehammer with 478 prestige, and I was also awarded another SE Gebirsjaeger in Half Track that I will be selling in order to get SE Tanks. I want a tank, but really like this prestige boost at the same time.

I think I will buy the 3rd Fighter and deploy the 2 Green ones for Lillehammer and buy my last Gebirsjaeger. Then I will only need to buy 2nd Henkel in Narvik.
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Lillehammer Super Hard



Started with 478 prestige, sold SE Gebirsjaeger and half track, 705 after replacements 705.
Bought Bf-109B.
(295 prestige left)
Mostly bringing new units to build up experience and kills.

On Westside placed: Green Fighter; Helmut Lent; 1st recon; 2 10.5cm arty’s; Albert Kerscher; new Gebirsjaeger.
On Eastside placed: New Gebirsjaeger; new Panzerjaeger; 2 Sturmpanzer’s; Polish Arty; 3.7cm Pak; and 8 Rad (2nd Recon); Pz1B; 8.8cm Flak; SE Gebirsjaeger.





Battle Report:
Day 1: Sunny
Seized Western and Eastern Norwegian towns.
Destroyed 2 Norwegian inf’s.
Day 1 ai CA:
2 Fighter Trap’s worked but still nicked Sturmpanzer (-5 on 1 and -2 the other).


Day 2: Sunny
Seized airfield next to Gjevik.
Destroyed Hurricane Mk 1 and Gloucester Gladiator.
Force surrendered 40mm AA.
Day 2 ai CA:
Inf in Gjevik hit recon -2 me -4 them.


Day 3: Sunny
Seized Homar.
Destroyed 2 Norway Inf’s and Force Surrendered a 75mm arty.
Day 3 – 6 ai CA:
nothing

Day 4: Sunny
Seized Gjevik and Elverum.
Destroyed Norwegian Inf.

Day 5: Sunny
Seized Norwegian town South of Lillehammer and pressuring Vigrom.
Destroyed Norwegian Inf in Vigrom.

Day 6: Sunny
Pressuring North Eastern most Norwegian Town.
Destroyed Norwegian Inf and Mtn Inf.


Day 7: Sunny
Seized North Eastern most Norwegian Town and Vigrom.
Destroyed Norwegian Inf and Mtn Inf.
Day 7 ai CA:
British Inf hit Albert Kerscher -2 them -1 me.


Day 8: Snowy
Force Surrendered Norwegian Inf and Cruiser Mk 1.
Day 8 ai CA:
Engineers ambushed by Albert Kerscher guarded by arty -3 them -1 me and I was awarded Iron Cross 2nd Class.


Day 9 Sunny
Destroyed 2 Strongpoints and a British Inf.
Day 9 ai CA:
Mtn Inf hit 1st Recon -2 them -2 me.


Day 10 Sunny
Destroyed Engineers.
Day 10 ai CA:
nothing


Day 11: Sunny
Seized 2 parts of Lillehammer and pressuring Segalstad.
Destroyed Norwegian inf.
Force Surrendered Mtn Unit.
Day 11 ai CA:
Arty nicked SE Gebirsjaeger and Heavy Weapons inf hit 3.7am Pak guarded by arty -3 me -2 them.

Day 12: Sunny
Seized Lillehammer.
Destroyed 25 Pounder.
Force Surrendered Heavy Weapons Inf and 40mm Bofors.
Day 12 ai CA:
2 Mtn Inf’s hit Green Gebirsjaeger -6 me -10 them.

Day 13: Cloudy
Pressuring Follebu.
Destroyed Matilda 1.
+3 Att 10th Ju-87B awarded Iron Cross 1st Class.
Day 13 ai CA:
Mtn inf hit 2nd Recon -2 each.


Day 14: Sunny
Seized Segalstad
Destroyed Norwegian Inf.
Day 14 – 18 ai CA:
nothing


Day 15: Sunny
Destroyed Mtn Inf.

Day 16: Sunny
Moved away from Follebu
Destroyed 2 Mtn Inf’s.
19th 10.5cm arty awarded Iron Cross 2nd Class.

Day 17: Sunny
Force Surrendered 7.5cm arty, 40mm AA, and Norwegian inf.
Day 17 ai CA:
(Forgot they got one more lick in. :oops: )
Norwegian inf hit 88 -2 each and retook Follebu.

Day 18: Cloudy
Retook Follebu and Force Surrendered last Norwegian Inf.



Decisive Victory with 585 ending Prestige
I took way more damage than I wanted to but gained almost 300 prestige and some much needed kills.
Next Narvik with 710 prestige.

I am buying Henkel and Bf-110C and will be finishing up 1939 probably this week.
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Narvik Super Hard



Started with 710 prestige, Bought Henkel and Bf-110C 86 and then bought replacements 28..
(295 prestige left)
Mostly bringing new units to build up experience and kills.

In the air 2 Green Fighters, Bf-110C, +3 Att Ju-87B, and 2 Henkels.

In the South Norwegian Town placed: SE Gebirsjaeger; Sturmpanzer; Gebirsjaeger; 10.5cm arty; and 8 Rad (2nd Recon).
In the North Norwegian Town placed: 2 10.5cm arty’s; Sturmpanzer; 1st recon; Albert Kerscher; Gebirsjaeger.






Battle Report:
Day 1: Sunny (Brought out 8.8cm AA in the North)
Seized airfield in the North.
Destroyed Norwegian inf, 40mm AA, and 75mm arty.
Day 1 ai CA:
Enemy destroyed Destroyer; Hurricane hit +3 Att Ju-87B -5 me -1 them; Chasseurs hit Panzerjaeger guarded by Sturmpanzer -2 them -1 me.


Day 2: Sunny
Seized North Norwegian Town and Southern Norwegian Town South of Brestfjord.
Destroyed Chasseurs and Destroyer.
Force surrendered Mtn Inf.
Day 2 ai CA:
Norwegian Inf hit aux Gebirsjaeger -2 me -4 them and Mtn Inf hit 1st Recon -1 me -3 them.
Sea Battles :roll:


Day 3: Sunny
Seized Bjerkvik and Ballangen.
Destroyed Norwegian Inf Hurricane, Destroyer, and 2 Mtn Inf’s.
Day 3 ai CA:
Enemy destroyed destroyer and a few attacks on aux Fallschimjaeger.


Day 4: Cloudy
Seized airfield South of Bogen.
Destroyed 40mm AA, Spitfire, Destroyer.
ai CA:
Naval Battles; Mtn Inf hit aux Geb -3 me -5 them.

Day 5: Sunny
Destroyed Norwegian Inf, Mtn Inf, Submarine, and 3 Destroyers.
ai CA:
Naval Battles and Strat Bomber nicked Sturmpanzer.


Day 6: Sunny
Destroyed 4 Destroyers.
ai CA:
1st Recon hit by 2 attacks -2 me.



Day 7: Cloudy
Destroyed Light Cruiser and Whitley.
Force Surrendered Renault R35.
Day 7 ai CA:
AA nicked Fighter and Destroyer nicked.


Day 8: Snowy
Destroyed 105mm arty.
Force Surrendered 2 Norwegian Inf’s and 25mm AA.
Day 8 ai CA:
Enemy destroyed aux Fallschimjaeger and aux Gebirsjaeger; and Nicked Hipper.


Day 9 Sunny
Destroyed Norwegian Inf.
Force Surrendered Norwegian Inf.
Day 9 ai CA:
nothing


Day 10 Cloudy
Destroyed Mtn Inf.
Force Surrendered 2 Norwegian Inf’s and 7.5cm arty.
Day 10 ai CA:
Chasseurs hit Green Gebirsjaeger -6 me -5 them.


Day 11: Sunny
Seized last airfield and Straumsnes.
Destroyed Glorious Aircraft Carrier, HMS Warspite, and Mtn Inf.
Force Surrendered 3 inch AA, Chasseurs, and Dingo.
Day 11 ai CA:
2 Pounder hit Panzerjaeger guarded by arty. -4 them -2 me.


Day 12: Sunny
Seized part of Narvik.
Force Surrendered 2 Pounder and 40mm Bofors.
Day 12 ai CA:
Nothing left


Day 13: Sunny
Seized more of Narvik and backed away from Biesfjord.
Force Surrendered Engineers

Day 14: Cloudy
Backed away from main Narvik.
Force Surrendered 3 Norwegian Inf’s.

Day 16: Cloudy (Day 15 nothing)
Seized Narvik and backed away from Biesfjord.
Force Surrendered 6 Pounder

Day 17: Sunny
Destroyed Norwegian inf.

Day 18: Sunny
Seized Biesfjord and Force Surrendered last Mtn Inf.



Decisive Victory with 356 ending Prestige
Next my army importing into 1940 and my thoughts about the future of my army.

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Re: Double Rommel/Double Field Marshall/ Progressively Manst

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Super Hard Army importing into 1940
33 units total (I had 46 in Manstein and 43 in Field Marshall)
506 in prestige (This is just crazy small, but it is what I have)

8 Infantry: (I see myself buying 1 to 3 more to help round out the force I am working with, especially at least 1 Fallschimjaeger and maybe 2 more based on heroes awarded.)
2 regular Inf both with 1 star experience.
6 Gerbisjager’s 3 with 0 Stars experience and 3 with 1 star only Oleh Dir has a hero.
It is hard to build up infantry and I see myself happy if I can get any of them to 2 stars and will use them to get at least 2 stars and 1 hero in 1940.

3 Tanks
1 Pz 38(t)a that is Albert Kerscher that I will eventually upgrade to Pz4 once I have enough prestige.
2 Pz1B’s with 1 stars of experience (1 has Iron Cross 2nd Class, the other does not, the one that does not will become a Pz4D to help kill soft units and hopefully get a good 1st hero.)
My goal is to use capturable tanks to round out my tank army, but mostly selling any that get a lousy 1st hero as there are so many tanks I will be awarded as SE’s and captured throughout the playthrough.

2 Recon
2 stars experience. The other has no stars. I will try to use these to help complete surround, suppress, surrender and hope to keep them around to continue doing this for years to come.

2 AT’s
1 3.7cm Pak with 1 star of experience.
1 Panzerjaeger with 0 stars.
I will work strictly with these, and see myself buying 1 more Panzerjaeger to help build up some AT’s for future use.

8 artys
All have towed artillery have 2 stars of experience 2 Sturmpanzers with 1 star, 1 Polish Arty, 5 other 10.5cm artys. (1 with +1 Att hero)
(I will buy 1 more Sturmpanzer eventually and probably 1 more 10.5cm at some point, unless I get some awesome 1st heroes that make new seem ludicrous.)

1 AA
1 8.8cm Flak with 1 Star, I see myself buying 1 more towed, and 2 Mobile AA’s to help chew up enemy airforce before I attack with my limited planes.

3 Fighters
2 with 1 star and 1 with no stars. These are the limit for my Fighter purchases as I will be awarded with various heroed fighters that I will use to help round out my air defense and attack.

4 Tac Bombers
1 Recon Rudel with 1 star just saving to get Uber.
1 +3 Att 1 star JU-87B
Helmut Lent Bf-110C 1 Star
1 Green Bf-110C with 0 stars
I may buy 1 more Junkers to help rain death, but may just stay with these.

2 Strat Bombers
2 Henkels 1 with 2 stars of Experience other with 0 Stars. (This is it)

I plan on using these as my core and will be buying 10-12 more units in 1940, but expect focus to be on building up what I already have hoping I can get to 2 stars.

I was awarded an SE Pz3F at start of Eben Emael with 506 in prestige. This is anemic, that I hope to build up stronger amount for future replacements.
My hope is to have just under 5000 by the end of 1940, but will settle for 2500, we shall see.

My thoughts I have been contemplating around my study of Eben Emael.
Place 88 Flak and either 3.7cm Pak or Panzerjaeger up buy Eben Emael. (Thoughts about 3.7cm Pak is that I can attack while they are without ammo and build up kills and possibly get 1st hero or maybe even 2nd star, Panzerjaeger thoughts are that it would be a chance to build up experience since it is at 70’s for experience if I pay for their replacements.)
Buy 1 Fallschimjaeger to drop and help around those forts, or hold back 1 slot to place one artillery in one of those deployment areas that once I move a unit I will be able to place in. (Not sure which to do, so thoughts would be appreciated)
7 units in the air is a given to help solidify the control of the air as well as prevent the fort from reloading.
4 other artillery around primary deployment.
Pz4d, SE Pz3F, SE Gebirsjaeger, 2nd Recon 8 Rad (want to use this to rush map and prevent them from reloading more units).

3 more units
Trying to decide between Pz1B to hopefully get 1st hero, Oleh Dir to help secure areas needed in the South, what about 2 green Gebirsjaeger’s or any of my regular infantry including 1 with a truck that would allow me to move quicker.

Thoughts about last 3 units would be appreciated and any of the questions about possible deployments.

Thanks!
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Re: Double Rommel/Double Field Marshall/ Progressively Manst

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I have been following this AAR avidly and decided to give it a try. I am playing with double Rommel double FM but my progressively Manstein takes the form of adding strength of 0 in '39 and '40 then adding the last digit of the year from then on. Thus 11 strength in '41, 12 strength in '42. I believe I will crash and burn by the end of '42 due to prestige starvation.


As I play nikivd's OOBs, there are some slight differences in gameplay. I use Kradschutzen rather than Recon units. I refuse to play with Sturmpanzers as they belong in the realm of fantasy as no such units existed in the German army at that time. I have been forcing myself to learn how to employ Falschirmjaegers whenever they can be of use.


My starting forces for 1940 consist of 32 units with 1421 prestige.


11 infantry : 3 Fsg, 6 Gebirgs, 2 Krads

4 Armor 1 Pz38, 1Pz III, 2 PzIV(one of which is an SE)
2AT Pzjgr
6 Art all 105s
1AA the trusty 88 with 1 star.
3 ftrs, 2 with two stars
3 Tac Rudel plus 2 110cs I do not like to play with the Jus until the R or D models come along.
2 Strat Heinkels with two stars each.

I intend to use my three Falschirmjaegers at Eben Emael. Want to seize airbases quickly so my short-range fighters can be more effective. My '88 should be quite effective attacking forts w/o ammunition. May buy a new artillery or two for this scenario as well. I will be upgrading my armor to PzIVds and /or the pzIIf.
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Re: Double Rommel/Double Field Marshall/ Progressively Manst

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shawkhan2 wrote:I have been following this AAR avidly and decided to give it a try. I am playing with double Rommel double FM but my progressively Manstein takes the form of adding strength of 0 in '39 and '40 then adding the last digit of the year from then on. Thus 11 strength in '41, 12 strength in '42. I believe I will crash and burn by the end of '42 due to prestige starvation.


As I play nikivd's OOBs, there are some slight differences in gameplay. I use Kradschutzen rather than Recon units. I refuse to play with Sturmpanzers as they belong in the realm of fantasy as no such units existed in the German army at that time. I have been forcing myself to learn how to employ Falschirmjaegers whenever they can be of use.


My starting forces for 1940 consist of 32 units with 1421 prestige.


11 infantry : 3 Fsg, 6 Gebirgs, 2 Krads

4 Armor 1 Pz38, 1Pz III, 2 PzIV(one of which is an SE)
2AT Pzjgr
6 Art all 105s
1AA the trusty 88 with 1 star.
3 ftrs, 2 with two stars
3 Tac Rudel plus 2 110cs I do not like to play with the Jus until the R or D models come along.
2 Strat Heinkels with two stars each.

I intend to use my three Falschirmjaegers at Eben Emael. Want to seize airbases quickly so my short-range fighters can be more effective. My '88 should be quite effective attacking forts w/o ammunition. May buy a new artillery or two for this scenario as well. I will be upgrading my armor to PzIVds and /or the pzIIf.
That is an amzing force in comparison to mine, nice amount of prestige...have you been able to accumulate that because you keep getting awarded SE units and selling them?
I am considering doing that even after I get my 3rd tank, but unsure if I will need to.
Nice force, I use Sturmpanzer as need that extra protection.

I think Fallschimjaeger's are just too vulnerable for my difficulty level, but maybe nice to have 1 or 2 for some of the missions with Forts/Strongpoints

Did you have any heroes, other than the ones given you by the game?
I am surprised I have not received more heroes, but I am doing more Force Surrenders than straight up kills.
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Re: Double Rommel/Double Field Marshall/ Progressively Manst

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I would say the forces are about the same in point value except I do have better armor right now. I have been lucky getting SE units which are promptly sold off when not armor. I have tried desperately to keep my casualties low as the prestige accumulations are so pitiful. Seldom take more than one or two damage on my units. I admit I also had to take a marginal victory(my only one ) at Modlin. I have an attack hero on one SE tank and a movement hero on one Gebirgs. That is it so far.
Do you think it possible to go beyond 1942 playing with these handicaps? I see no way I can afford to upgrade to the better PzIVs and FW190 to name just two otherwise very necessary unit types. Guess we will see. :D
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