Multiplayer Series: Map Breakdown with goose_2 and braccada
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Multiplayer Series: Map Breakdown with goose_2 and braccada
My new series features Panzer Corps Multiplayer and gives insights on multiplayer strategies and various multiplayer maps. While commenting great eSports matches the series will give you an indroduction to Panzer Corps Multiplayer and provide the knowledge to prevail on each of the maps. Special thanks to goose_2 for contributing and sharing his insights. He is one of the best players around!
Comments, discussions on strategy and feedback appreciated!
Comments, discussions on strategy and feedback appreciated!
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Poland
Poland
Fall Weiss, the German plan for the invasion of Poland is underway. This game between goose_2 and braccada shows Polish and German strategies on the map and gives general introduction to multiplayer.
Fall Weiss, the German plan for the invasion of Poland is underway. This game between goose_2 and braccada shows Polish and German strategies on the map and gives general introduction to multiplayer.
Follow my Grand Let's Play series: Rommel, Manstein and Guderian
http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=145&t=53035
http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=145&t=53035
Re: Multiplayer Series: Map Breakdown with goose_2 and bracc
Kudos from me
This is somehow the Black Hole of the Panzer Corps Realm for me where I never dared to go before.
So many thanks to both of you for the effort to share your knowledge and garner interest for this Part of the Game.
I will follow this very intensely
This is somehow the Black Hole of the Panzer Corps Realm for me where I never dared to go before.
So many thanks to both of you for the effort to share your knowledge and garner interest for this Part of the Game.
I will follow this very intensely
Re: Multiplayer Series: Map Breakdown with goose_2 and bracc
I watched both Videos und the First thing that came to my mind is
Wow interesting how many new aspects such a pretty Basic Map offers in Multiplayer.
Then I like to See how Braccada leaves his safe Zone and take some risks unlike normal scenarios.
I cant say too much about goose style, resp. it that is different to his Campaign Style, but he is certainly still way more aggressive than braccada.
Anyway that was a nice Start to an interesting Series.
Party On Dudes, I will follow it for Sure.
Just a question to get me on Track with the Process.
I assume no One sits at home waiting for the other to finish his turn.
So One of you does his turn, sends a message and then the opponent gets his try.
How long does it take to finish such an 11 turn battle and do you fight your Flip Flop of Sides parallel
Like braccada Starts German Turn 1, then goose Poland Turn 1 and his German Turn 1 at the Same go, so braccada continues with German Turn 2 and Poland Turn 1 on the Same sequence and so on.
Or ist this a First Game Braccada is Germany, goose is Poland til its done and then a rematch after that with sides flipped ?
The only aspect I'm not completely solid on is the number of Turns as a criteria for the overall win.
A surprising Change of Weather at the wrong time can cost you a Turn or More and decide the final result.
But These are just my naive and innocent thoughts about this complete new Panzer Corps experience
And I now Know its Kind of hell to Type in English with German autocorrect so dont be annoyed with several typos it forced on me
Wow interesting how many new aspects such a pretty Basic Map offers in Multiplayer.
Then I like to See how Braccada leaves his safe Zone and take some risks unlike normal scenarios.
I cant say too much about goose style, resp. it that is different to his Campaign Style, but he is certainly still way more aggressive than braccada.
Anyway that was a nice Start to an interesting Series.
Party On Dudes, I will follow it for Sure.
Just a question to get me on Track with the Process.
I assume no One sits at home waiting for the other to finish his turn.
So One of you does his turn, sends a message and then the opponent gets his try.
How long does it take to finish such an 11 turn battle and do you fight your Flip Flop of Sides parallel
Like braccada Starts German Turn 1, then goose Poland Turn 1 and his German Turn 1 at the Same go, so braccada continues with German Turn 2 and Poland Turn 1 on the Same sequence and so on.
Or ist this a First Game Braccada is Germany, goose is Poland til its done and then a rematch after that with sides flipped ?
The only aspect I'm not completely solid on is the number of Turns as a criteria for the overall win.
A surprising Change of Weather at the wrong time can cost you a Turn or More and decide the final result.
But These are just my naive and innocent thoughts about this complete new Panzer Corps experience
And I now Know its Kind of hell to Type in English with German autocorrect so dont be annoyed with several typos it forced on me
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Re: Multiplayer Series: Map Breakdown with goose_2 and bracc
hurly wrote:
I assume no One sits at home waiting for the other to finish his turn.
So One of you does his turn, sends a message and then the opponent gets his try.
How long does it take to finish such an 11 turn battle and do you fight your Flip Flop of Sides parallel
Like braccada Starts German Turn 1, then goose Poland Turn 1 and his German Turn 1 at the Same go, so braccada continues with German Turn 2 and Poland Turn 1 on the Same sequence and so on.
Or ist this a First Game Braccada is Germany, goose is Poland til its done and then a rematch after that with sides flipped ?
The only aspect I'm not completely solid on is the number of Turns as a criteria for the overall win.
A surprising Change of Weather at the wrong time can cost you a Turn or More and decide the final result.
But These are just my naive and innocent thoughts about this complete new Panzer Corps experience
And I now Know its Kind of hell to Type in English with German autocorrect so dont be annoyed with several typos it forced on me
One person sets up the game and the other joins because they know the password. You do not need a password to set up a game and if you set up a game without a password anyone on multiplayer can accept your challenge when they click on accept challenge tab in multiplayer. But once it is set up then the person who set it up automatically receives an email from Slitherine letting you know that your challenge was accepted and it goes back and forth with messages as you play your rounds. It can drive your spouse nuts getting your computer clogged with email notices so you can set up here on the forum somehow to shut off notices, but I have never done it so not entirely sure how it is done.
You ask about flip flop, it is called a paired game when you set it up, and what that means is you have two games set up.
Poland for example: 1 game I was the Polish and on the other I was the German. You could play all the way through one side before playing the other side, but we typically play one than the other to get a comparison of how each other is doing.
Going forward we will be playing just one side of the map, but on Poland we wanted to demonstrate the difference in play styles. Yes I am aggressive.
The games initial message gives the detail of what the criteria is for a win, but typically it is the same on most scenarios.
In most of the Balanced maps is to end the final turn with the most primary objectives.
In most of the historical maps it is to have all of the main objectives if you are the side that is the aggressor, if you are the defender it is usually to retain control of at least one main objective.
This is not a hard and fast rule, but it is the general gist of the initial set up.
The best way to learn is to try. So I recommend picking your favorite map with your favorite side and create an open game.
I can remember when I first bought the game. I started playing the single player and was immediately saddened to see the vanilla campaign only had one Polish battle before moving onto Norway, so I most certainly got the entire Grand Campaign and was thrilled to see all of the Polish scenarios and the whole set up. I have been in hog heaven since on single player, but right before Christmas I decided to click on multiplayer to explore what that was all about.
I found open games on accept a challenge and was stunned to find you can play people.
I got my butt whooped pretty hard my first few battles as my first 10 losses came quickly. (I am at 99 losses right now.) 98 being this Polish loss and number 99 being my Tournament loss.
Then I found an excellent French tutor by the name of Hollowlolo. He taught me the ropes and I try to use every loss as a learning opportunity.
Blessings on your endeavors.
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Re: Multiplayer Series: Map Breakdown with goose_2 and bracc
In a paired game (where you play both sides) the game itself does not produce a winner. It only does on the individual battles. So you can get a triumph as Germans and a minor loss as Poland. It is up to you to define the rules who is the overall winner of the paired game. In our case we decided triumph beats minor victory, that is obvious. If both have equal results (in that case we both had a triumph as Germany) we decided the next win condition is speed. That was equal as well. By our rules that is a draw, but you could introduce a third win condition like overall losses. Pretty simple, but hard to explain short and simple So I hope that is not too confusing.hurly wrote:I watched both Videos und the First thing that came to my mind is
The only aspect I'm not completely solid on is the number of Turns as a criteria for the overall win.
A surprising Change of Weather at the wrong time can cost you a Turn or More and decide the final result.
But These are just my naive and innocent thoughts about this complete new Panzer Corps experience
And you are right, there is quite a bit of luck involved. In this case I would have won, without the mud. Even a bad role can be make or break. However in general the better player will win anyways and the randomness adds some fun and frustration If you do not like that, just turn of weather and set the game to chess mode. That is fine as well.
Regarding my playstyle. Playing a human is different, so you have to adapt. I am still more a control type of player in multiplayer. goose on the other hand is very aggressive. I think that is great for this series, so you can see two different styles and can decide what fits you most or develope your own. I do not thing either aggression or control is better. Sometimes the aggression is his downfall and sometimes he manages to break my control and overwhelm my forces. It is rather balanced at the moment, with him winning more often, but knowing the maps a lot better than me.
Follow my Grand Let's Play series: Rommel, Manstein and Guderian
http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=145&t=53035
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The Frozen North
The Frozen North
German and Soviet forces launch simultaneous offensives to control a narrow, snow covered battlefield. This game between goose_2 and braccada is taken from the quarter finals of the Slitherine Tournament 2016.
The video quality is not the best, because the replay is acting up. Still a very interesting battle that showcases quantity versus quality on a map with a lot of strategic options.
German and Soviet forces launch simultaneous offensives to control a narrow, snow covered battlefield. This game between goose_2 and braccada is taken from the quarter finals of the Slitherine Tournament 2016.
The video quality is not the best, because the replay is acting up. Still a very interesting battle that showcases quantity versus quality on a map with a lot of strategic options.
Follow my Grand Let's Play series: Rommel, Manstein and Guderian
http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=145&t=53035
http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=145&t=53035
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The Battle of Bzura
Battle of the Bzura - Polish forces between the Bzura and Vistula rivers attempt to break out and flank German Panzer forces friving on Warsaw. This game between goose_2 and braccada shows Polish and German strategies on the map and gives general introduction to multiplayer.
Follow my Grand Let's Play series: Rommel, Manstein and Guderian
http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=145&t=53035
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Re: Multiplayer Series: Map Breakdown with goose_2 and bracc
Watched the Frozen North replay. Good game. Thanks for posting it.
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Re: Multiplayer Series: Map Breakdown with goose_2 and bracc
I am sure enjoying this project with Braccada.
He is quickly becoming my superior in these playthroughs, I am sure this is no surprise to anyone after seeing his playthroughs.
His run through I find excellent at laying out some basic strategies and concepts that will through people off who try to switch from single player to multi player.
I am looking forward to our next match up.
The Dneiper.
A real nail biter everytime I have played it, and should be similar with Braccada.
He is quickly becoming my superior in these playthroughs, I am sure this is no surprise to anyone after seeing his playthroughs.
His run through I find excellent at laying out some basic strategies and concepts that will through people off who try to switch from single player to multi player.
I am looking forward to our next match up.
The Dneiper.
A real nail biter everytime I have played it, and should be similar with Braccada.
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