Why no Swedish/swine-feathers for D&G Later Germans?

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Why no Swedish/swine-feathers for D&G Later Germans?

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Whilst researching the Bavarian army of the 1680-1700 period, I found two sources* which state that after pikemen were removed in 1686, and whilst the musketeers were still armed with plug bayonets, the infantry were equipped with swine-feathers (one of the books is about the Bavarian forces fighting in Piedmont/Savoy, so this was not merely for use on the Turkish front, as is suggested in the Austrian/Imperial lists). Each man carried an individual spear which, prior to action, was inserted into a wooden beam carried in the baggage wagons. The Brandenburg-Prussian, and Saxon-Polish armies all had similar arrangements, so this was not unique - yet none of these armies have these field defences available.

Anteil der bayrischen Armee an den Feldzügen in Piemont 1691 bis 1696. Bearbeitet von Leonhard Winkler.
Theil - Feldzugsjahr 1691

Die beiden Infanterieregimenter waren mit Schweinsfedern und Balken versehen, welche denselben auf Karren nachgefahren werden.
The two infantry regiments were equipped with swine-feathers and (wooden) bars/beams , which were in the regimental cart.

Das Heer des Blauen Königs 1682-1726, by Anton Hoffmann
Tafel 7: Pikenier bis 1686 - Hinweis auf den Zeitpunkt der Abschaffung der Pike in bayrischen Infanterieregimentern sowie unter Punkt B) Schweinsfedern - waren damals Ersatz für Pikendefensive
Plate 7: Pikeman, 1686.
Note on the date of the removal of the Pike in Bavarian infantry regiments, as well as in point B) swine-feathers were then substituted.
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Re: Why no Swedish/swine-feathers for D&G Later Germans?

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The advantages you can get by being able to read German when researching German armies :D

Feel free to use such in your games, its like the missing bayonets in the Austrian list of the period :shock:

Sad fact is that the Duty & Glory lists were some of the most rushed so there are inevitably mistakes that would have been avoided if more time had been available.
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Re: Why no Swedish/swine-feathers for D&G Later Germans?

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If this is correct, should it not be added to the Errata for when it is next updated?

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Re: Why no Swedish/swine-feathers for D&G Later Germans?

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Its certainly an option and easy to do as, IIRC, there is already a line for the Saxons to have them so it'd just amend that (we try and avoid adding new lines via errata unless it is an egregious omission/error).
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Re: Why no Swedish/swine-feathers for D&G Later Germans?

Post by RonanTheLibrarian »

nikgaukroger wrote:.....there is already a line for the Saxons to have them.....
Sorry, I missed that option - probably didn't look at it as it said "Saxony only". :oops: :oops:

Thank you for agreeing the addendum.
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Re: Why no Swedish/swine-feathers for D&G Later Germans?

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nikgaukroger wrote:Its certainly an option and easy to do as, IIRC, there is already a line for the Saxons to have them so it'd just amend that (we try and avoid adding new lines via errata unless it is an egregious omission/error).
This is a mistake. You should pick a date once or twice a year to put an errata out. At worst it suggest you care, even when some of us know you better than that. :twisted:
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