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The Dutch at Campaign 2014

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:38 pm
by madaxeman
In a report spanning 5 pages and almost 10,000 words, you can revel in the exploits of possibly the blandest army ever to take the field on this website, the Dutch (of the 80 Years War - no, me neither) as they duplicate their World Cup heroics and take on a limited themed pool of other similar but generally better armies in a competition in which the last army to be used was the decidedly non-dull Pirates.

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Have a look at whether lots of average troops can actually take on lots of Superior ones - and be amazed at how infrequently a 35 point ship can feature in 5 consecutive battle reports.

Wake up and Smell the Edam !!

Re: The Dutch at Campaign 2014

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:55 pm
by youngr
Great stuff - keeps me awake at work!!!

Re: The Dutch at Campaign 2014

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:51 pm
by daveallen
A strange thing happened to the surviving Swiss keil in game 4.

a) When the Dutch Cuirassiers break off the keil is in a 3 4 4 1 formation where the HWs are in the 3 & 1 files

b) When next we see them the keil has expanded to a 2 4 4 1 1 formation with the HWs in the two 1 files

c) Finally, after pursuing into the guns they turn into a 2 5 5 formation with the HW in the 2 file


Can't be sure about a) without my rule book, but I think it's okay.

b) is wrong because it's not a legal formation - the back two ranks of Pike are unequal, but you're only allowed one unequal rank.

c) is wrong because when a keil turns 90 degrees it maintains its formation. That's why it's a complex move.

Don't think it affected the outcome of the game, but an interesting example of how tricky the keil rules are. :roll:

Dave

PS some great results there Tim. Even if a tad jammy...

Re: The Dutch at Campaign 2014

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:56 am
by rbodleyscott
daveallen wrote:A strange thing happened to the surviving Swiss keil in game 4.

a) When the Dutch Cuirassiers break off the keil is in a 3 4 4 1 formation where the HWs are in the 3 & 1 files

b) When next we see them the keil has expanded to a 2 4 4 1 1 formation with the HWs in the two 1 files

c) Finally, after pursuing into the guns they turn into a 2 5 5 formation with the HW in the 2 file


Can't be sure about a) without my rule book, but I think it's okay.

b) is wrong because it's not a legal formation - the back two ranks of Pike are unequal, but you're only allowed one unequal rank.

c) is wrong because when a keil turns 90 degrees it maintains its formation. That's why it's a complex move.

Don't think it affected the outcome of the game, but an interesting example of how tricky the keil rules are. :roll:

Dave

PS some great results there Tim. Even if a tad jammy...
I agree about (b), but Tim more or less insisted I should be allowed to do it despite my reservations.

I don't recall how (c) came about.

Re: The Dutch at Campaign 2014

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:31 am
by madaxeman
Yeah... hW bases in a position where they do not contribute a POA (rank 3 of a 3 rank file) really should be able to expand out shouldn't they? Otherwise they almost never can

IMO the HW should always be able to expand unless that loses a 4-rank POA for a file, and that should trump all other formation rules when in combat.

I suspect there may have been an intervening move in c). But it might have been an incorrect "double-reform" ..!